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March 02, 2008

The History of Rock n Roll - Katherine Lung

This era's pop culture influences is pivotal because it brought changes and pushed and challenged American way of living and social boundaries with the influences of black music, and European ideas. Elvis's controversial movement broadcasted on television brought sexuality in the open, which was taboo to discuss before, The Beatles and their ideal boy-ish charm that all parents approve of made it acceptable for everyone to like them and their music which eventually with John Lennon's active role in social changes taught Americas to question and challenge authority, and Bob Dylan's music that wholly reflected the emotional state of America which is natural considering Bob Dylan grew up in it himself.

Elvis' popularity is largely due to the large following for "race music", such as R&B and Gospel. However in the still heavily segregated American society, it wasn't acceptable to listen to Black influenced music, but with the emergence of Elvis, a White male, it allowed a large scope of audience to enjoy this genre of music openly. Thus came the era of Rock n Roll. The Beatles and brought in European views that challenged the Christian and conservative America, not consciously (ie the Beatles are better than Jesus comment) but probably brought on from cultural differences. Bob Dylan would come in a different category than The Beatles and Elvis, since he wasn't geared toward popularity in such ways as Elvis and Beatles was, but simply channeled his state of feelings he experienced in a age where there was turmoil everywhere politically and socially, reflected and synchronized with the feeling of the rest of American youth.

February 24, 2008

Classic Musical Icons - Dominic Nemmers

Elvis, Bob Dylan, and the Beatles were all classic and iconic members of American pop culture and music in their own right, but they impacted the country differently. Elvis marked the epoch of rock and roll to the world, and was a main figure in the changing era of American sexuality. He was swooned over by teenagers while vilified by much of the conservative and religious members of the country. The Beatles had more of a wholesome mainstream appeal, and were liked by most everyone. The Beatles early career wasn’t marked by the sexual scandal that Elvis’ was, but they were still seen as teen heart-throbs everywhere. Bob Dylan was seen more as a social reformer, bringing together rock and roll and the thinking and revolutionary types. Each of these artists had a unique appearance that both added to their icon status, and to their popularity. Elvis wore outlandish outfits to highlight his movement onstage, while the dapper and diminutive Beatles originally dressed in suits and ties; Bob Dylan’s appearance really emanated an “I don’t care” attitude that was also parlayed in his music. I believe that Elvis represented what parents didn’t want their children to behave like sexually, while the Beatles embodied asexuality originally that had more parents approving of them. I agree that music can be very tantamount to teenagers and impressionable kids, but I believe it is more impressionable than pornography as it can display a wide range of emotions and thinkings, while pornography is more limited. Elvis’ success in copying music that had been around before relied on several things, his ability to present it in a fresh new perspective was one; he also gave the music of an older generation a new rebellious twist that many teens found appealing. The musical heritage of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were founded in much of old American blues and gospel, which gave them almost American roots that appealed to Americans; they incorporated those classics into their music which allow them to seem almost familiar while being new bands. I agree with George Clinton saying that “most kids hate their parent’s artist”, but I see that as more being rebellious toward their parents than anything toward their music. Kids want to have their own identity, and enjoying what their parents enjoy doesn’t separate them. I do see teenage rebellion being a reason that Elvis and the Beatles were popular, but I can’t say that it was the prime reason because all generations of children have been trying to listen to different things than their parents, so this was nothing new. I see the role of women as really the catapulting factor in the cultural and financial success of these bands. Women really envisioned themselves having a personal link to these artists, and in doing so, felt a close connection which compelled them to support the artists in any way they could. While Bob Dylan embodied the “bad boy” role that many people seem to think draw to women, he was less of a sexual icon, and as such wasn’t supported by mostly women.

History of Music - Chimezie Ononenyi

Through the world of music, appearance and sexuality definitely played a significant role in Beatles and Elvis’s influence on the popular culture. As Clinton acknowledged, Elvis’s celebrity status skyrocketed just for the fact that parents during his early days on the spot hated his artist image. Similarly, as it has been known throughout history, it is always the things that get banned that usually attract the most attention and curiosity. So obviously kids were fascinated for his celebrity image.

The Beatles took the same approach to growing their celebrity status. Even though they did not include physical movements such as hip swinging like Elvis, their lyrics had just about related sexual content. They also had English accent and shaggy hair cuts, which made them stand out and attract even more attention. People usually are attracted to whatever is new, and in this case, there has never been any artists that had same figure like the Beatles did.

Bob Dylan on the other hand had a different approach: Apart from smoking cigarette on every other scene he was in and always wearing sun shades, he was a very distinguished poet that had a different approach to expressing his music. He used his talent to support political movements, a move that many artists before him never made.
Bloom has his opinions about the effects of rock music but I believe in the popular saying that sex sells. In other words, the Beatles and Elvis’s sexual approach to music sold easily to young people.

When one adds up the fact that these artists appeared soon after the World War II, during the times of revolutionary movements when young people were starting to let go of their highly conservative ways, there was no better way to win the attention of young and sexually curious young men and women than expressing music with sex filled content.

The Missing Link.

There is no doubt that African Americans are the ones responsible for the gift of rock and roll. They knew all along what music should feel like, but foolish American morals resulted in that wonderful gift staying within their community. Elvis was then sent forth to bring that gift to the masses. He didn't copy or plagiarize anything flat out; he merely popularized it. His success was due to his talent, good looks, and and of course his whiteness. This wasn't all that bad, for people realized how important and necessary he was and was going to be in helping rock and roll explode. The Beatles and the Rolling Stones gained immense fame for being a few of the first who took what Elvis did and expanded on it. These two bands also had their own look and routine, which is exactly what America wanted so desperately at the time. Being British and having that foreign factor work to their advantage here didn't hurt either. In conclusion, Elvis was necessary to bring great music to the masses, for the masses were too stubborn at the time to turn their ear to the sounds of the Black community and accept its genius.

Andrew Probelski

Jon Marshalla's Elvis, The Beatles, & Dylan Entry

Without question, Elvis and The Beatles took a sexually conservative America into a new age and drastically influenced the morals and values held by society. I do not think, however, that this was due to a direct influence as much as these artists providing an outlet for a "bored" American society. In his article The Closing of the American Mind Bloom comments that "The inevitable corollary of such sexual interest is rebellion against the parental authority that represses it." (74). It was not the lyrics of songs by Elvis and The Beatles that encouraged this "sexual interest," rather it was their very presence and image that they radiated that provided an outlet for teenagers to decide for themselves on issues of morality and sexuality.

While I agree with Bloom on the fact that their music allowed a rebellion against parental authority, I disagree with the idea that it provided a negative influence. Bloom also states in his article that "The result is nothing less than parents' loss of control over their children's moral education at a time when no one else is seriously concerned with it." (76). This implies that this "cool" new rock music had a greater influence on children than their parents do, which I find inaccurate. While parents could not completely restrict their children from listening to rock music, they were able to discuss with them what it meant to have strong morals and why it was important. Teens cannot be sheltered forever and will ultimately have to make up their own decisions on morals. In my opinion, it is better that they are exposed to these "evils" while still in an environment where their parents do have the ability to influence them. Bloom also states that "Rock gives children, on a silver platter, with all the public authority of the entertainment industry, everything their parents always used to tell them they had to wait for until they grew up and would understand later." Rather than hindering teens by sheltering them, Elvis and The Beatles gave them the opportunity to think for themselves and mature sooner. This is what ultimately led to the strong social influence that these artists had on a sexually conservative America. They themselves didn't define what was right or wrong directly, but provided the outlet and means for Americans, specifically teens, to define it for themselves.

Week 5: Elvis and The Beatles

The Beatles and Elvis took rock music to a new level. But they did not just do this by way of their musical talent and memorable lyrics. Their appearance and actions deserve a handful of the credit too. The Beatles came onto the scene in America and brought “Beatlemania” with them. Girls and women alike went crazy for them. Crazy might even be an understatement. The Beatles were like a new drug. “Rock music provides premature ecstasy and, in this respect, is like the drugs with which it is allied” (Bloom 80). Due to the complete, for lack of a better term, wildness, The Beatles had to stop doing live tours and become a “studio band” because no one could hear anything at their concerts (lecture). The constant “scream” from the fans, consisting the majority of females, was overpowering and drown out their music. One reason for the insanity over this historical musical group was their appearance. They had a totally different look from the current “look” of every man in America. They had longer, straight hair and a different sense of fashion. In general, they were irresistible to the vast majority of the American youth population.

“The inevitable corollary of such sexual interest is rebellion against the parental authority that represses it” (Bloom 74). Elvis was the other major craze of the rock world. Girls wanted to be with him and guys wanted to be him. For the youth population, he was an icon. He too had “a look” that helped propel him to stardom. He had his slicked back hair and “gyrating” hip. He captivated the youth of America, but was looked down upon by parents and the middle age to older population. He was too sexually “provocative” and his dancing was poisoning the youth. But he was the newest and “hippest” thing in rock music.

The Beatles and Elvis mesmerized America. Not only were they the new sound, but they were the new look.

Rock 'n Roll Youth Culture and History

The atmosphere in the United States during the 1690s was one of change and innovation. The music, and therefore the youth culture, was undergoing a rapid conversion to the long excepted mediocrity to a new phenomenon known as “rock and roll.” The music was new to the majority of America. As the video stated, the music had been around in African American venues for years, but performers like Elvis “made it ok for white people to listen to” this sensational new sound. Fans of rock and roll were intrigued by the new styles that were being presented. Rock and roll had an innovative new life behind the music, and it invigorated the youth of the nation. On top of this, rock music was being presented to the masses by attractive cool young men. The boys wanted to be like them, and the girls wanted to be with them. The changes that normally happen when people break the teenage years were amplified by the incredible new experience that was rock and roll. It was more than just music, it was a culture. For teens looking to define themselves and break free of their childhood, rock offered an amazing outlet for their need for self-expression, as well as their desire to be “cool.” It was little wonder that this new culture grabbed millions of young Americans and solidified itself in the hearts and history of the nation forever.

Alex Schreiner

Elvis, The Beatles, and Dylan- Brenna Munoz

Elvis, The Beatles, and Bob Dylan each exploded in to the music scene leaving an everlasting impression on both the past and future of Rock-n-Roll. These three phenomenons, in addition to directly influencing the success and aspirations of one another, intensely influenced and inspired people of their generation. This leads many to ask: What exactly was it about these musicians that made them extraordinary to their time?

Through the in depth accounts portrayed throughout the selection “The History of Rock-n-Roll,” which is a significantly captivating film for any true music lover, we notice comparable attributes of Elvis, The Beatles, and Bob Dylan through their timing of arrival, unique and liberating attitudes, and their ability to connect with society.
“Music gave people a sense of hope in the future at a time when the world was in flames.” This quote from the film explains exactly why the explosion of these three musicians was so intensified. Elvis, The Beatles, and Bob Dylan all made there mark at a time when society was in a very vulnerable state. The music they generated provided Americans with an escape from unpleasant thoughts of where society was heading, and gave them hope for change. Because of their unique and liberating attitudes, these three musical phenomenons were able to capture the thoughts, thrills, desires, and frustrations of society at the time, and put them into words and music. Elvis with his seductive hips, The Beatles with their unique wittiness, and Dylan with his powerfully genuine lyrics were all able to connect with society on a whole new level because they moved away from self censorship and vouched for a different route; one that was free from restrictions, revolved around raw feelings and emotions, and was true to the core.

Although the timing of their explosion into the music scene proves to be quite crucial, it should not be confused with the reason for their outstanding success. The quality of Elvis’, The Beatles’, and Dylan’s music, in my opinion, stands superior to that of the majority of musicians before or after their time.


Martine Schroeder - Week 5

I found the selections taken from the film “The History of Rock-n-Roll” very interesting and entertaining. I never knew much about the background and origins of the music Elvis, the Beatles, and Dylan played. I enjoy all of their music, but to be honest didn’t know much of the history behind it. This documentary did a great job of making it more clear as to what and how this music came to be, and provided some of the speculative reasons for why it became so popular.

There is no clear reason for why the music of these artists, the Beatles in particular, became so popular with the young generation. However, there are a number of things that may have contributed. There was a lot going on in America at this point in time politically, socially, and culturally. And music was a way to respond to it.

The music of the Beatles was a bit more light-hearted and fun, yet the older generation didn’t care for it too much and was baffled as to why this music was so popular. This difference in generational opinions on music may have been a primary reason the younger generation liked it so much. It was a way to rebel against their elders.

The music of the Beatles, and the Beatles themselves, were especially popular with the young females. At this time girls had to walk a fine line of being prim and proper, but also had to adapt to the role of being sexy and modern. Becoming basically obsessed with the Beatles was a way for girls to break from the sexual repression of the time and show a side of their sexuality that had never really been seen. Girls expressed just how much they adored a group of good looking men. They mobbed, cried and screamed in excessive amounts to show their affection towards the Beatles. This had never been done to this extreme and I think it was a way to rebel against the social constraints that women were trying to break from at this point in history.

Elvis, The Beatles, & Dylan Mikhail Karpich

According to George Clinton, “Most kids hate their parents artists…They want to get away from that more than anything.” The prime reason for Elvis and the Beatles success is rebellion according to Walley and Stark. I definitely disagree with Walley’s and Stark’s statement. It was not rebellion or bored teenagers from the baby-boom that caused the emerging artists success but, rather a new style or a way to express themselves, to go with the developing new music and culture of that era. According to the article, “Beatlemania,” by B Ehrenreich, “Adolescents are going through a strenuous period of emotional and physical growth, which leads to a need of expression…” It was a way to express themselves and not riot or try to cause trouble. Of course, group conformity can have both powerful and profound effects on what might happen but, it was not intended to be violent or rebellious. According to the same article by B. Ehrenreich, the teens, “did not riot for anything, except the chance to remain in proximity of their idols…” I definitely agree with Clinton’s statement on the other hand. According to the book, “Meet the Beatles,” the teens acted the way they did because it was something new and different from their previous generation, “We screamed because it was a kick against anything old-fashioned.” Why were the Beatles, Elvis, etc. so popular than? They had distinct music, they were different, and they were doing things that others were not doing. What was the role of woman in this phenomenon and why were they so up taken by Elvis and the Beatles? According to, “Meet the Beatles,” “They were drop dead cute,” and, “Beatles appearance especially their long hair, which too many made them look like girls.” These young women were looking for idols of their generation, seeing that every generation has an idol. Also the young girls of that generation were walking a path that, “Was a narrow and careful defined terrain,” According to the article, “Beatlemania,” by B. Ehrenreich. Rock n Roll was a chance for them to express the sexual repressed yearning s and freedom. According to the same article by B. Ehrenreich a woman who was thirteen at that time said the following, “I liked their independence and sexuality and wanted those things for myself.”

Elvis

Elvis' music was heavily influenced by rythym and blues and gospel. Before he brought this music to the mainstream it was seen as "race music" and was popular mostly in the black culture. The reason Elvis became so successful with music that had been around for years was because his face was more "acceptable" to the mass white audiences. He was seen as a rebellious good boy and had a wide appealing image. He made it okay for the mainstream American popular culture to like the music that blacks had been listening to long before. Elvis' ability to break through prejudices and bring new music to the mainstream paved the way for other artists to follow.

Rock and roll is a genre characterized by rebellion, revolution, and evolution. Elvis started this movement with scandalous dance moves and loud music. His popularity allowed other artists to build off of what he had started. New artists found their voice and old artists found new audiences.

Success of the Beatles and Elvis: Generation Gaps and Rebellious Youth by Chris Hovel

I agree entirely with the statement that the some of the success of the Beatles and Elvis was based on the generation difference between the youth of that time and their parents. Most kids no matter what time period think that whatever their parents do can't be that cool or appealing. The opposite also applies, if your parents keep telling you that you can't listen to this certain type of music or dress a certain way, you will naturally be attracted to the thing that upsets them so much. However it wasn't just the rebellious element that attracted throngs of youth to them but these bands also played a different type of music that many had never heard before and utilized their appearance to form some sex appeal. I feel that this sex appeal along with the ever growing female movement allowed for younger teenage girls to express themselves through fashion, music and gender equality in the work place. Teenagers were also coming into contact with more and more spending money which would allow them to purchase more things like records and clothing. The success of these bands can never be explained by one or two different things. The Beatles and Elvis were bands that were at the perfect moment in time for them to have the impact that they did on our culture and society. Also along with the help from the notion that anyone who listened to or enjoyed that type of music was being some how rebellious, these bands were able to captivate an entire generation and any one passed that with their music.

Chris Dahmen's blog 5

Diana West in her book entitled Death of the Grown Up has made the claim that Elivis Presely and other figure heads of the 50's and 60's embodied an antibourgeois culture. And likewise, the bourgeois had an anti-rock ideology. She makes the case that this is the generation that began the death of the grown up as it is defined in her book. I think she, and parents of the day, up to and including me (not a parent yet) would definatley agree with Bloom's claim that "Music can become tantamount to pornography for teenager." She claims that never before had anything been marketed to heavily to teenagers and kids. In fact, as she apty points out, the word "teenager" didn't even appear in our language until shortly before the rock revolution in the 50's. It may be that rock was deliberatley created and perpetuated just to get kids to go crazy over it and get hooked to maximize profits from sales in the same way cigarettes were infamously targeting teenagers for sales with familiar characters like Joe Camel. Bloom makes the claim in his article "The rock business is perfect capitalism, supplying to demand and helping to create it. It has all the moral dignity of drug trafficking, but it was so totally new and unexpected that nobody thought to control it, and now it is too late." He also describes Mick Jagger as "playing the possessed lower class demon and teen aged satyr...with one eye on the mobs of children of both sexes whom he stimulated to a sensual frenzy and the other eye winking at the unerotic, commercially motivated adults who handled the money." This is clearly not a wholesome endeavor by any stretch of the word. From this very predictable perspective of capitalism and vulgarity, it seems as though there is nothing good the rock culture has to offer in social terms literally or figuratively. Parents should have been outraged and not just for obvious reasons. As Bloom points out "I believe it[rock] ruins the imagination of young people and makes it very difficult for them to have a passionate relationship to the art and though that are the substance of liberal education." Clearly the parents who believed that rock or antibourgeois culture of the 50's was not just annoying, but posed a greater threat to their children and their psychology and education were really on to something that Bloom revealed so many years later. Unfortunatley, the parents at the time probably had no way of articulating this as Bloom does, and being so new, they probably also had no idea of how bad it would be for their kids and the culture in general in the long run. The issue is more dangerous for our culture now than many realize. Again Allan Bloom "The inevitable corollary of such sexual interest is rebellion against the parental authority that represses it." But what seems to be dangerous, is the thought of what will happen when the antibourgeois kids become parents themselves. The. Many of them are parents who need parents. THey may have no ability to realize such things as they often have no ability to be scrupulous and think outside of their own perspective and so on, all hallmarks of liberal education. Such an ideology is certainly hard to break. "It may well be that a society's greatest madness seems normal to itself. And the conclusion is bleak with no grown ups as Diana West points out "Responisibility and restraint are not only bedrock virtues of liberal civilization, they are also hallmarks of the grown-up. Without them, civilization becomes anarchic, and the grown up slips and regresses." When the grrown up regresses, what will their kids be like? The future?

Elvis, Beatles, Dylan - Tammy Woehler

Elvis and The Beatles brought an uproar to the American society. They changed the way music sounded, they changed the way girls and women acted, privately or publicly, and they changed boys and men - to be more like them. Elvis and the Beatles brought a new kind of music to the stage. Along with the new sounds, they brought new dances and appearances. Elvis was either famous, by the ladies, or imfamous, by those opposed to the dancing. The ladies loved the leg move that Elvis had. Others hated it, calling it "provocative." Elvis also had a new look that most men didn't have. He had long hair that was slicked back, not just an ordinary crew cut every other guy had. The Beatles, on the other hand, brought on "Beatlemania." Ehrenrich said that Beatlemania, “was the first and most dramatic uprising of women’s sexual revolution” (pp. 524). At Beatle concerts, no one could hear a thing, including the band, because girls would just scream and scream because the Beatles were right in front of them. The Beatles also had a different look than the average male in the United States. They had long, straight hair and had their own style of clothing. Just like Elvis, they had brought a new sound to the stage of music. The Beatles would get mobbed by girls left and right if the girls new the Beatles would be around a certain place at a certain time. They were not acting like respectful young ladies. They acted, as some would say, like "hooligans."

Josh Zaborowski

Elvis and The Beatles were both very popular among men and women. Women wanted them and men wanted to be them. Elvis and The Beatles were both sexual icons. They were obviously attractive, unique, young men, and their music and the way they performed at that time was pretty provocative. I believe their attractiveness and uniqueness really propelled their success in the music industry. Yes their style of music and presentation “irked” many parents. Parents disapproval very well could have been part of the reason for their popularity, because I am sure many kids enjoyed their music, however when the kids found out that their parents strongly disapproved they probably became a little more vocal about their love of the music to “rebel” against their parents. Between wanting to rebel, and also being presented with a new unique form of music, I think those aspects really propelled Elvis and The Beatles into their Super Star status.

The Beatles

The American 1960s was a decade characterized by countless economic and cultural struggles, the overindulgence of love and ecstasy, and the invasion of a British rock and roll movement. During the 1960s, bands like the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin were exponentially rising in popularity and fame. The increased fame of these British rockers caused rock and roll to become the fundamental social force of the decade. It personified the hedonism and decadence of the era and made a blatant statement to the world about American morals. These bands incarnated the pure intemperance of rock and roll. The music of the British quartet, the Beatles, however, was kept pure and innocent.
When the Beatles first arrived in American pop culture, it was during a time when rock and roll personified a changing view of the female sexuality. According to the reading The British Are Coming!, “…the Beatles appeared less intimidating for another reason – they didn’t flaunt their sexuality” (29). American females could “…embrace the [Beatles] without feeling they were joining some kind of cadre of juvenile delinquents…” (29). Because the lyrics to their songs upheld the societal paradigm, the group was less of a threat to parents who wanted their daughters to remain innocent. The lyrics of the Rolling Stones described lewd sexual acts whereas the lyrics of the Beatles described holding hands and puppy love. The Beatles were popular because the image the Beatles portrayed allowed parent and child alike to embrace their music without feeling threatened or delinquent.

Ian R. Bell

Beatles, Elvis, and Bob Dylan - The Ultimate Threesome (Jeff Batts)

The Beatles and Elvis Presley came at an ideal time to exploit the sexual loosening of America. In one of the prompts, it is contended that American society was sexually conservative at this time. I don't necessarily know if I agree with that. I think that in the years before the British invasion, our culture had already been loosening the belt on sexual inhibition. The Kinsey report showed that America was a lot more perverse than most would like to admit. These covert sexual undertones were ready to boil over, and these acts provided the necessary heat to unleash an intense sexual backlash against the old guard.

Elvis was a homegrown icon, and there's definitely no arguing that he triggered a wave of activity that made parents cringe. His hip swinging and facial expressions were apparently enough to make girls faint. The Beatles were, according to Ehrenrich (525), enough to make girls wet their pants. The provided a means and an excuse for girls to lose themselves. They provided the suggestive music and movements, and the public ate it up. I am not totally convinced that Bob Dylan was intended to be a sexual icon though. In comparing Elvis/Beatles to Bob Dylan, the overall focus of their songs seem to be different. While the Beatles focused on romance with songs like '8 Days a Week', 'I Want to Hold Your Hand', and 'She Loves Me' (among MANY others), they sang about optimistic love. Elvis, on the other hand, still had sexually charged lyrics and actions, but he focused on downsides of romance. 'Heartbreak Hotel', for instance, talks about how painful relationships can be.

Bob Dylan's music seemed to be more politically charged. The only song of Bob's that I'm familiar with that openly concerns women is 'Lay Lady Lay'. Songs such as 'Hurricane' and 'Like a Rolling Stone' seem to focus on political aspects. Dylan was not known for his hip swaying, good looks, or lip sneer. He was known more as a poet and a lyricist than a sexual icon. Therefore, I would contend that that the Beatles and Elvis took advantage of an underlying sexual society, and that Bob Dylan came and grabbed a completely different audience - one that was fed up with the wars and political unrest.

Oh, and for the record, the best Beatle was Paul.

Jeff Batts

Jesse Stapp- Elvis, The Beatles, & Dylan

A common theme throughout the readings and the documentary this week was 'sexuality'. In the texts and film, sexuality is a useful tool in describing the phenomenon of the era. First is the way in which The Beatles used atypical images to further their sexual appeal. By being everything that American men (at the time) were not, The Beatles were able to step out of the rigid structures of male/female image stereotypes. The sexuality exuded by The Beatles' audience(s), primarily teenage girls, is described in detail by Barbara Ehrenreich et al. In their work, Ehrenreich et al desribe the sexual aggression displayed by teenage girls in this era to be a rebellion against the strict standards to which females were expected to adhere to. For teenage girls, screaming at a Beatles' concert was no more than a way to counter the double standards placed upon them. According to Ehrenreich et al, a girl must walk the fine line between being a classy, moral lady while being sexy enough to attract a male counterpart. At Beatles' concerts, however, a girl could scream at the top of her lungs and do her part to break down the unreasonable standards set upon her. In much the same way, Elvis Presley stuck to his upbringing to make a name for himself, just as The Beatles had done. For Elvis, it was the way in which he stuck to his southern ways that made him 'sexy' to America. By defying the upperclass, Elvis 'stuck it to the man' through the use of his lyrics, his dance moves and his rock n' roll attitude. Lindsay Waters detailed an appearance on national television in which Elvis truly spoke to conventional listeners. By singing to an actual hounddog and addressing the camera to speak to the viewers, Elvis became a leader in the rock n' roll cultural revolution.

Elvis, the Beatles, and Dylan Allison Veire

The music of Bob Dylan as compared to Elvis and the Beatles is vastly different. And these differences are not only present in the musical content but also in the way the musician is viewed by their fans. Listening to Bob Dylan you hear more that just music, its poetry, and that is exactly how his fans react to him. He is speaking to their intellectual soul. Whereas the music played by the Beatles and Elvis speaks of love and casual relations. It predominantly speaks to the sexual desires of their young fan base. But no matter what aspect of the soul the music targets it is all about individuality.

Bob Dylan’s songs inspired a generation to think individually. He took this genre of music and turned it into something that spoke to people’s conscious minds. It seemed to stir many new views on life. The article by Bloom has a passage that says, “music is the medium of the human soul in it’s most ecstatic condition of wonder and terror.” This idea of wonder and terror that was instilled in Bob Dylan’s music is what made it so great. It’s the type of music that makes you think and puts everything in a new perspective.

The music of the Beatles and Elvis seemed to spark a revolution of rebellion upon the pure ways of the past. It played on the sexual desires of the young that had never been unleashed. That idea I think is what made it so revolutionary, the fact that something like this had never been experienced with such a force before in that generation. Bloom says, “rock music has one appeal only, a barbaric appeal, to sexual desire.”

So how do these two completely different genres co-exist together? Altogether I think it created a whole new way of thinking not only out of desire but out of wonder.

Meighan Byron's "History of Rock & Roll"

I think women were taken with Elvis because of his blunt sexuality. No one came close to having the same sexual charisma that he did in his early days. The wiggle of his hips, the quiver in his lips, whew! Elvis was the polar opposite of Lawrence Welk, Sammy Kaye and Bing Crosby. They were useful as the soothing, crooning voices during the unsettling time of World War II. People would hear them on the radio warbling through the night and I think it probably set a tone of calmness and normalcy. The war was over, service men and women came home and started the baby boom. The norm was to buy a Chevrolet, a dog and a colonial style house with a picket fence in front and pop out children.
Things became so monotonous and safe after a time of turbulent war. The generation after the “Greatest Generation” needed their own identity; to break out of this Pleasantville world. I think that’s what George Clinton meant by “most kids hate their parent’s artist…” It’s because they need their own generational identity. Elvis’ introduction into the mainstream gave white kids permission to like music different than their parents. After all what was wasn’t to like? He was white, very good looking and a good Christian boy from Tupelo, Mississippi. So Elvis became the liberator for the post World War II generation, those who were too young to participate in the war effort but were now of an age where they wanted to be apart of a social movement. It’s happened in every generation really. You associate the young people of a said generation with a genre of music. I associate my parents with the disco of the seventies, my sister with the grunge movement of the nineties and someday I hope I’ll be associated with the indie rock movement of today.

Elvis and the Beatles-Revolutionizing the World Stage

With World War II finally over, a new decade in America was starting. The 1950’s were a time of change for the United States and music was one of the foremost areas where this change was felt.
Rhythm and blues had been a prominent form of spiritual expression in the Black community for decades. However, it did not mainstream until Elvis Presley came onto the scene. One key element that was essential for the movement of rhythm and blues into mainstream American music was the increasing position of the television in American homes. Elvis Presley was a slick, tough Caucasian male, unafraid to show himself as a rebel to the American people as he gyrated his hips in front of the entire nation. This allowed the caucasian American population to view rhythm and blues as a part of their culture instead of the segregation of music they had previously experienced. Another element Elvis brought was his crude sexual innuendos that had parents appalled and every girl lovestruck. Singlehandedly, he opened up American television to being open about sexuality, a practice that had never before been seen in America. The sheer fact that parents disapproved of Elvis’s music catapulted his fame even more as evidenced by George Clinton when he stated that “most kids hate their parent’s artists... they want to get away from that more than anything.”
As Elvis paved the way for the rhythm and blues movement in America, the Beatles started the revolution in Great Britain. Greatly influenced by Elvis, the Beatles followed his lead by being trendsetters for clothes and hairstyles. They let their hair grow out and found themselves to be heart throbs everywhere they ventured. Overall, they started a revolution of change and treading against the grain of popular society of the time to become predominant figures.

History of Music, Chris Lewis

Music can birth a feeling from one gentle note, or from a massive chorus. Either way music has the power to create thought, emotion, and a way of life. Each musician in his own time created a following and a reason for living. The Beatles turned their band from playing great songs to playing great songs with a purpose that led their fans into a new political direction. The involvement of sex, drugs, and politics in music created a more conjoined youth which today is a more well informed group of adults. The appeal of these bands is not just their alluring personalities or good looks. It's the way that they make people feel and think about the world around them. These artists are just as much political leaders as have been any other president or politician. Influence over community falls over those who have thought and drive. These three sets of artists had both.

Sexual Symbols

Teenage culture was artificially created shortly before the arrival of rock and roll. There was suddenly a new phase of life, between childhood and adulthood. Rock music emerged as the anthem for this new phase. Musicians like Elvis and the Beatles drew criticism for the raw sexuality evinced in their dancing, lyrics, beats, and fans. Different analysis of this effect popped up in the media.
Ehrenreich et. al. considered it as the announcement and ratification of teen sexuality and frustration (533). Beatlemania was a result of changing social roles and aspirations. While it was a form of conformity, giving meaning and validation to girls awakening sexual personas, it was also a form of personal revolt. Girl’s protested the sexual repression that was their role. They laid claim to feelings of desire and accepted the role of pursuer instead of the inactive recipient and blocker of sexual advances. It was a ‘safe’ form of sexuality where they could escape the invisible life of housewife, never ending in “the tedium of marriage” (532).
Bloom focused more on rock’s “attempts to capture the rawest passions” (73). He feared that the tribal beats and explicit lyrics resulted in a deadened generation that would never enjoy life. They would be incited to anarchy and rebellion by the base emotions rock called forth. The sexuality roused in the youth was a dangerous consequence that would ruin our society.
I agree with both of them in some respects. Elvis’s hip wagging and the Beatle’s hysteric fans were symbols of the growing sexual revolution. Women were beginning to lay claim to a more active role in sexual relations. Young girls wanted more than a fancy house filled with children and a husband to pay for it all. There was a desire to claim the perceived power inherent in sexuality. It was also a form of conformity, legitimizing the new social desires and confirming ones trendy status.
Bloom also had a point in the excessive exposure to ‘obscene’ lyrics that run counter to the dominant ideology can lead to what I like to think of as ‘rebels without a clue’. It can incite extreme passions with no real link to the underlying reality that inspired the song maker. Elvis’s pelvis stirred many a young girl’s fancy without her really grasping the sexual nature so obvious to adults. Beatlemania resulted in proper young women performing lawless acts. It is important to note that sexuality is ever more present, but there is still a strong sexually conservative stance in American culture. There has not been a complete collapse of morality, no performer will ever have an influence that strong.

Nyssa Shawstad

WORKS CITED
Bloom, Alan. “Music” in The Closing of the American Mind (1987) p.68-81
Ehrenreich, Barbara, Hess, and Jacobs. “Beatlemania: A sexually defiant consumer subculture?” in K. Gelder and S. Thornton (eds.) The Subculture Reader (Routledge) London, 1997 pp. 523-536

Tara Williams

Both Elvis and The Beatles were very popular with women. Elvis, in my opinion was not the best musician. A lot of the songs he performed were taken from other artists. The thing that made Elvis so popular was his sexuality. The way he gyrated his hips was scandalous in the 50s, and caused an uproar with the parents. This actually probably helped with Elvis’ popularity. It’s like the saying even bad publicity is still publicity. To listen to this artist that their parents despised was a way to rebel for the teenagers of the time. The Beatles came to America in a time of change in the roles of women. In the past they were supposed to pure, good girls while still being attractive and pretty. In the 60s they were starting to break out of the mold and be more open about their sexuality. The Beatles appealed to the girls of America because they were different than the normal American Guy. The Beatles had accents, they had long hair, and they wore suits. All these things made them different and attractive to the American girls. Bob Dylan did not use sexuality to become popular. He played folk music, which is not about looks but about the lyrics and the messages of the music.

Jasmine Omorogbe

There were many groups that plowed the path for rock n roll in the United States. As someone mentioned previously this week, many are not given the credit they deserve, such as the Rolling Stones in addition to other groups and the plethora of black artists whose songs were "borrowed".
There are definiite differences in the sexuality of the three groups we are focusing on this week. Elvis was obviously sexy with his slickback hair, smooth skin, cute smile and hot dance moves (although they look more like a seizure or spastic movements to me) and definitely used his looks as a marketing tool. The Beatles were more sexy "by accident". They didn't see themselves as sex symbols, they weren't marketed as sexy, that is probably one of the things that made them even more attractive to their audience. However, they were doing something different from the norm in America at that time, which added that edge to their appeal also. On the other hand, Dylan was far from sexy (maybe only my opinion), he didn't seem to be one who was about appearances. He was more attractive because of his bada**, independent attitude and the content of his music more than anything.
Each of the three utilzed appearance in the formation of their musical identity, whether the statement was made by paying explicit attention or ignoring it.

As far as Elvis' rediscovery of the music form, I think it was because as we discussed in class, Elvis made it ok for white people to listen to what was previously known as "race music". He somewhat "opened the floodgates" by drawing the attention of the masses to it. His new style of music combined with his looks and dances that pushed the envelope ensured his seat in rock n roll history forever. As with anything today, anything that is controversial garners a lot of media attention and upsets some, but is also GREAT for publicity and attracting new fans. This is part of why he was so incredibly popular.

Thomas Campbell's Rock n Roll Reflections

The main idea from “The History of Rock and Roll” DVD is how Rock and Roll and sexuality brought about a revolutionary change to America’s society after World War Two. The three main artists that were discussed include Elvis, The Beatles, and Bob Dylan. These three music artists had unique differences in the importance to changes to sexuality in America. The artist’s uniqueness was the key to their success. Elvis and The Beatles were considered sex symbols known for their love and affection in their lyrics, however Bob Dylan was not a sex symbol but known for his exceptional lyrics that were politically motivated. Both Elvis and The Beatles were new and exciting which emphasized the changing roles of women, however the sexuality of the singers played a large part in the parents disapproval of the artists music, due to their fear of change. A great example of this is “Beatlemania”. Ehrenrich et al believe that Beatlemania “was the first and most dramatic uprising of women’s sexual revolution” (pp. 524). The Beatles long shaggy hair cuts, their English accents, and sense of humor was something new and exciting for the teenage girls. The Beatles changed the style of the American fashion sense from clean haircuts to the longer haircuts, as the teenage girls fell in love with The Beatles. Elvis also changed the roles of women through the sexuality of his gyrating dance movements and boyish American good looks. Elvis helped change the music genre of the time to Rock and Roll through his attractiveness as the girls loved him. His dance moves were new and exciting, which also played a huge part in teenage girls parents disapproval of his sex appeal. Parents were afraid of change, and believed that these sexual movements were inappropriate, which lead to the parent’s belief that their daughters were rebellious. Bob Dylan was different as his more political voice was not so appealing to young females. He also was not as attractive as The Beatles, and Elvis. Dylan instead used his lyrics to spread his message to his fans. Overall Bob Dylan, The Beatles and Elvis had a different way to bring about a revolutionary change in Rock and Roll within America’s society.

Rob Skogen

“Dude, if you were to make a Mount Rushmore of rock n roll, who would you include?”

We have all had this conversation with friends late at night, likely over a few beers. It is an ongoing discourse that young people have been having for the past few decades, but I would be willing to bet that Elvis, the Beatles, and Dylan have all been prominently mentioned in a majority of these debates.

The reasons cited typically focus on an individual song, performance, or album and may vaguely allude to some greater context. Rarely are the three connected in any significant way. The phenomenon that was Elvis Presley, or was the Beatles, or was Bob Dylan was unique in and of itself, but the collective impact they had on American culture is still not fully understood.

At face value, these figures represent the innocence of a generation coming of age. Elvis introduced white America to an “alien” musical form in the 1950s. Soon afterwards, the Beatles hit the scene and endeared themselves to a vast teenaged. Dylan took everything to another level after meeting the Beatles and fused the electrically charged pop rock with the politically charged folk scene. The American experience was never the same.

At least that is the romantic version of things. After reading a few of the articles this week, I was deeply shaken when the elephant in the room was brought to my attention. Inherent in the capitalistic system is a hypocrisy of exploitation of some group of people at every turn. In this case, the young boomers and every other generation to follow were unwittingly manipulated by a music industry that was keenly aware of their spending potential and the profits to be had from creating heroes.

But that unleashes the overall question that seems to be an undercurrent in everything we have been reading. Is popular culture a tool used by the establishment to control the masses, or is it a tool used by the masses to overthrow the establishment?

Maybe we’ll have to wait on that monument a bit. It seems there are some more pertinent discussions to be had.

The Beatles, Elvis, and Dylan - Melissa Green

For Elvis Presley and the Beatles, sexuality was an important part of their identities as musicians. Given that their music was often about love (and implicitly, sex), it made commercial sense to cultivate an image which fit. Elvis seemed to face tougher criticism for displaying his sexuality, probably because the timing wasn't quite right. However, when the Beatles came to America the time was right. The death of JFK just two months prior represented an end to age of "innocence" in American life. With it came the ending of innocence for teenage girls. On the eve of the women's rights movement, women and girls were beginning to rebel, albeit in a less political and organized way. Beatlemania was the form in which these girls rebelled. Ehrenrich notes in her articles how at the time the thought of girls 10-14 possessing a sexuality at all was an unthinkable concept at the time, except for Freudians. What Beatlemania did was allow these girls to proclaim and own their sexuality. For perhaps the first time in American culture, men were being explicitly objectified by mass amounts of women. For the Beatles, it made sense to continue to encourage this type of behavior as it was good for business. For an artist such as Bob Dylan however, cultivating a sexual image did not make much sense. His music was of a more "serious" nature, appealing to those who were passionate about making the world a better place, ending the war, and finding meaning in life. For Bob Dylan to attempt to promote a sexual image would not make sense, and would probably have been confusing.

Cameron White

Rock-in-Roll was apart of the American culture from the 1950’s to the 1970’s. It was artist like the Beatles, Elvis, and Bob Dylan that paved the way for Rock-in-Roll to become so popular. Sexuality was also a large factor in heightening these artists’ careers and it was all done through there own sort of style.
The Beatles hit America by storm and had success what seemed like over night. They transformed the music industry with their clever comedy and English accents. Americans during this time in history were considered to be very clean cut and when the Beatles came over with their so called “Bull Cut” hair style was quite the eye opener. It is safe to say they were going against societies cultural norms because the hair styles became very popular and everyone started to wear their hair that way. Not only did Rock-in-Roll impact males, but also women. Before the Beatles women and girls were thought to be proper and pure. As stated in Ehrenric’s article, “To be popular with boys and girls – to be universally attractive and still have an unblemished ‘reputation’ – a girl had to be crafty, cool, and careful. The payoff for all this effort was to end up exactly like Mom – a housewife”. The Beatles became popular by creating a new image for teens and young adult in American, while Elvis was creating a name for himself through his amazing dancing ability.
Elvis became a sex symbol to many girls, due to the way he could dance and move his hips on stage. America was viewed as being very proper and the way that Elvis would dance upset many adults. They believed hip trusts and leg shaking was too much and should be censored. Some even viewed it as pornography! His sense of style was very different from the rest of the artists during this era and I feel he portrays sexuality more then any of the other artists.
Bob Dylan was the bad boy of the Rock-in-Roll era and had the “I do what I want” persona. He would be up on stage with his guitar, harmonica and a lit cigarette. It was not about appealing sexually to the audience he was all about creating great lyrical music. He wrote about politics because he felt that love songs did not reach out the same way.
Rock-in-Roll is a part in our history that will never be forgotten due to the remarkable artists and amazing music, which also brought great social change through sexuality.

Controversy and Rock-Kyle Anderson

There is little doubt that Elvis’ style was outright stolen, or at the very least heavily influenced, from gospel and r&b. In fact, prior to his widespread stardom, many radio listeners thought that Elvis was black. Elvis was really no different than many other black artists of the day, yet he proved to be the catalyst that pushed rock ‘n roll into mainstream America. Racial tension was still high during the time period after WWII and into the Civil Rights Movement. Many saw Elvis as a bridge to help connect the races through music, and indeed Elvis paved the way for many black musicians to follow. While Elvis did make rock ‘n roll mainstream, critics from the African American community criticized the trend that America wanted black music without the black people, and that Elvis was a thief of the music styles of black artists. The larger question, perhaps, is if Elvis would have still been as phenomenally popular had the genre not been so controversial. The fact that parents frowned upon rock ‘n roll music instantly made it infinitely more appealing to kids, in the same manner that parental advisory stickers make CDs more appealing to today’s youth.
The controversy surrounding the genre of rock ‘n roll was further magnified by Elvis’ sexual innuendos and gestures while on stage. As stated in the Bloom article, “young people know that rock has the beat of sexual intercourse.”(pg 73) Parents and adults alike feared the consequences of rock ‘n roll on the youth, envisioning a generation of deviant sexual perverts. Without the controversy generated by the fact that rock was derived from so-called “race music” in addition to the controversy of the sexual liberation accompanying the movement, it is unlikely that rock ‘n roll would have garnered the same cultural explosion in America. The controversial nature of rock ‘n roll was a key factor in its enormous success.

The History of Rock-n-Roll/ Kyle Cross

I also believe that rebellion was a primary reason for the success of Elvis and the Beatles among others. Even though Elvis "had the look" that made so many young girls adore him at the time, he also made"race music" acceptable to listen to and he brought this music right to their living room. But back to the rebellion aspect. Throughout the readings, I found the common theme of sexual oppression among teenagers as the main driver behind the successes of these artists. A quote from the reading "Beatle Mania" by Barbara Ehrenreich, Elizabeth Hess and Gloria Jacobs sums up this tension felt by teenage girls, "To abandon control-to scream, faint, dash about in mobs-was, in form if not in conscious intent, to protest the sexual repressiveness, rigid double standard of female teen culture." It wasn't that the music was so great at the early stages of these musician's careers, but it was attractive young men performing songs about love. Young men at the time had sports or other extra curricular activities to release some sexual tension, but girls had limited opportunities according to Science Newsletter 29 Feb 1964. Young females were supposed to be quiet during the 60's and the ideal daughter should be pure and soft spoken, not to speak unless spoken to. I believe this model that young girls were supposed to fit is what so many girls were rebelling against. I think this rebellion's origins can be found at home because not only was it a rebellion against society, but against parental authority. Bloom sums this up nicely, "The inevitable corollary of such sexual interest is rebellion against the parental authority that represses it."

Elvis, The Beatles, & Dylan - Amanda Palazzo

When The Beatles guitarist, George Harrison visited the United States a few months prior to their infamous “arrival” at JFK airport, he reported back to the group that, “they don’t know us…it’s going to be hard (Stark, 2006).” Within months, they had invaded and conquered; Beatlemania was in full swing in America. More than just the popularity of their music contributed to their rise to sudden stardom, though, obviously, that was an important factor.

The Beatles’ music, like Elvis’, was influenced by “race music,” music whose roots lie in the American south, with African American musicians. Before the arrival of Elvis, this type of music was not acceptable or easily accessible for white listeners. Therefore, when Elvis came on the scene, people reacted strongly (both positively and negatively) because it was so different from anything that was being played on the radio. The Beatles, inspired and influenced by Elvis, also elicited the same reaction in listeners. One fan, cited in the “The British Are Coming!,” said, “They’re different…they’re great because they’re different.” Another said, “We screamed because it was a kick against anything old-fashioned. (Stark, 2006)”

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