October 26, 2005

Family Readings

*There are two sets of questions to review for next week, this one and the one just before entitled "Work & Family".*

Please read through these questions and post a response to one question for each article. (for information on term usage surrounding "marriage", "gay" or "same sex marriage" see terminology)

Butler

Why do some gays & lesbians oppose marriage? Why do many gays & lesbians support marriage?

Why do some argue that marriage buys into the notion of a partiarchal model of relationships? Are there alternatives to marriage that would provide all the benefits without "buying into heterosexuality?"

How could marriage between LGBTi persons challenge traditional or historical notions of family? What factors might suggest that the traditional notion of family needs to be challenged?

Hochschild

What is the Time bind? Give examples of how advertisers have used the time bind to sell products to working parents?

Do you agree with Hochschild's theory on why parents choose not to spend more time at home? How universally could her theory be applied? (think about race, and social class differences)

Why has home become work and work become home? What theory of management has been significant in changing workplace atmosphere? What assumptions are used when the workplace is being described as "home?"

Posted by coph0004 at October 26, 2005 11:41 AM
Comments

Well, I would like to give opinion about why do gays or lesbians support marriage? I think human being grow up with their own experience, what they has been through the past, so I think people usually listen to their heart. Where I want to do or where I want to be.
If anyone have different comment feel free to give your opinion.

Posted by: Toua Vang at October 28, 2005 9:50 AM

A work place can become a home depending on how that particular person viewed it. Some people may feel more comfortable at work than at home because they would most likely to get along with friends than their own family. Therefore, as they work there for a longer period of time, they get more adapt to the surrounding enviornment, and calling it home. I think that people would assume theri work place a home when it becomes more liable to them than their home. For example, when their are things availble such as food, computer(internet), place to rest or sleep, arcade, etc. People would most likely to stay at work than at home because these sources may not be availible to them.

Posted by: Kou Yang at October 28, 2005 10:56 AM

Family Readings:

Some gay and lesbian couples oppose marriage because their efforts are aimed at making benefits available and equal to all regardless of marital status. Their goal is to make the relationship to be viewed as a long term monogamous one. Those opposed believe that marriage is hierarchical and unequal.
The gay and lesbians who support marriage do so for many reasons. Some believe the same sex monoagmous relationship is equal to opposite sex marriage in that it shows commitment and therefore could or should be applicable to the same benefits, including divorce. Others argue that if they have children shouldn't those children have parents who have the right to marry. The ability to be married and have the same rights give protection to the children of gay couples. As stated by Judith Stacey, "..legitimizing gay adn lesbian marriage would promote a democratic, pluralistic expansion of the meaning, practice and politics of family life in the United States.

Posted by: Tina Larson at October 29, 2005 11:53 AM

Family Readings 2:

I do agree with Hochschild's theory on why parents choose not to spend more time at home. In part because many people value the extra funds from the overtime. The other is the fact that you can encounter more stress at home because there is work to be done there as well. This doesn't necessarily apply to those whose economic level afford them paid help in ways of housekeeping, daycare, home grocery delivery etc. I also agree because I relate to the time binds described in the article which reference actions do deal with the lack of "quality time", or time bind and the inability to balance work and home. It used to be nice to plan time to do something with at least one kid but now when they go so frequently you justify by saying they are at "that age" and you don't want to keep them back. When given opportunities to grow at work you feel more empowered or important because someone saw something in you that made you capable of being more than what you thought you could be. Because you can get 10 loads of laundry done in a day you don't necessarily get recognized for doing such a great job.

Posted by: Tina Larson at October 29, 2005 12:38 PM

Well, I feel that maybe the reason gay and lesbian oppose marriage is because they feel that it's almost the same as if it was just a male and female. They don't feel any different and think that it's okay to do it and no one should have a saying to it. It's their life and leave at that. Every everybody is human so they all have the right to do what they may feel.

Many gay and lesbian support marriage is because they want to be together as if a couple were living together and jsut want to live in that peace for once. I feel that if two people want to be together and they are the same sex that is fine. it's their life and they should be able to chose what they want. Nobody is perfect and maybe they were meant to be born the other sex but it just didn't happen that way. I understand that there are some people who they are born with the sex that it not them . For example if you were born a girl and you had always been a or act like a male then you consider your self as a male. I don't know there is just so much to say.

Posted by: Mary Xiong at October 30, 2005 1:04 AM

The gays and lesbians that want marriage see many benefits to this from lower taxes, health benefits, legitimate recognition of being a couple and/or family, and equal civil rights. All of these things are important. Not only does it produce positive feeling, but a teamwork environment.
I do agree that gay and lesbians should be allowed to marry, but all of the benefits accorded to marry people should be for everyone who lives with someone. A good example is the tax breaks for married people. People who live together in a committed relationship whether gay, lesbian or heterosexual all have the same type bills.

Advertisers have used the time bind to sell products to working parents in several different ways. The example Hochschild uses is a Quaker Oats advertisement which shows the ease of the products use and how happy it makes a child to eat it. I can think of another example. Fast food restaurants like McDonald’s advertise families eating their product which presents a view of McDonald’s and family going together and suggests a time saving, family togetherness, and quality time feeling.

Posted by: Joe Manley at October 31, 2005 7:49 PM

Why has home become work and work become home? Work has become home because you form a group with your co-workers. You are with them for nine hours a day. You sit close to each other and hear all their probelms or fears. They are there to share your life with. You sometimes feel more comfortable with your co-workers then family members. Like the article said, people go to work to escape the headaches of home.

Posted by: Brenda Larson at October 31, 2005 9:27 PM

Gay and lesbians have pros and cons for marriage just like an hetrosexuals. An example for oposing marriage would be the acceptance or certainty of there sexuality. There have been cases of gays and lesbians changing after a while. Will divorce be a practice? An example of accepting marriage would be the wanting to be with their partner. They want to have a life and right like hetrosexuals. They just want to be equal.

Posted by: Brenda Larson at October 31, 2005 9:32 PM

From the reading I concluded that there are, or at least were, some homosexuals in committed relationships who didn't want to be treated like heterosexual couples, and therefore didn't want to be "married". This is in contrast to other homosexuals in committed relationships who want to have the same benefits of marriage that heterosexual couples do, including the basic (legal)recognition of their relationship. This concern seems to be the focal point of current debate, but there also needs to be serious thought about what happens when a homosexual relationship is disolved.

Posted by: Curt Olson at October 31, 2005 10:01 PM

A company I worked at recently offered job sharing, where two people could share a full-time job by each one working part-time. A few people took advantage of it but most did not. In fact, most could not. Only certain jobs were acceptable for job sharing since "business continuity" or "project continuity" were essential and would be negatively impacted by job sharing. This kept most people from increasing their time at home but I also suspect that the salary impact associated with job sharing also kept a lot of people from considering it. I think the type of work one did actually had a lot more to do with who could job share than who could afford to job share.

Posted by: Curt Olson at October 31, 2005 10:29 PM

I feel gays and lesbians oppose marriage because they don't want to be classified the same as hetereosexul couples. They want everyone to know that they are a different brand of a relationship.
Gays and lesbians who support marriage are all about the different benefits it leads to. Whether it be taxes or whatever else, they will have an easier life togther as a couple if given the same benefits as a hetreosexual couple.

Home has becom work and work has become home because work in some way can be an escape from the dramatic issues at home. Instead of dealing with that drama, people can feel important with their coworkers giving them a sense of accomplishment. It seems when home life isn't going to good, than work can be a great escape. I do also think that being in a tight-knit group of coworkers can almost feel like a family. It's a group that you can blow off some steam from whats going wrong at home.

Posted by: Tim Greenstein at November 1, 2005 10:51 AM

Why do some argue that marriage buys into the notion of a partiarchal model of relationships? Are there alternatives to marriage that would provide all the benefits without "buying into heterosexuality?"
Some argue that marriage, as an institution, is inherently sexist and patriarchical. They feel that rather than "joining" the establishment of marriage, the entire matrimonial system should either be dismantled or "overhauled". Some people who are opposed to gay marriage would support an alternative legal partnership which affords the partners the same rights and responsibilities as a married couple.

Posted by: Amy Ballew at November 1, 2005 4:40 PM

What is the Time bind? Give examples of how advertisers have used the time bind to sell products to working parents?
The time bind is what people who work outside of the home feel about their home life. They feel that they have very little time at home with their families, so they must utilize every moment in the "correct" way. They will put quality time on a schedule, as though that is the only way it will happen. Advertisers use the time bind to sell the quick, the efficient products - such as the Instant Oatmeal ad: "...I can give him a terrific hot breakfast in just 90 seconds..."

Posted by: Amy Ballew at November 1, 2005 4:58 PM

The 'time bind' is a struggle within a family network regarding the distribution of time. It is having time constraints on family life because of parent(s) that work outside of the home. In a 'time bind': for example, I will use my life as an example, I am a single mom to a 7 year old girl, a full time RN and a half time student with a newly diagnosed onset of Lupus. I am in school 2 evenings out of the week and I work every other weekend, it is really challenging and tiring fitting in quality and quanity time with my daughter but quanity time is the more likely choice.
Things that are made convenient and advertised to those living in 'time binds' is food : fast drive thru food or 30 minute meals that can be cooked at home, cetain cleaning products like spray and leave on shower cleaner and telephone tutors to help your children with homework.

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