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A new Minnesota Poll released this week finds a majority of Gopher State residents opposed to a presidential bid by Governor Tim Pawlenty and a plurality of 43 percent saying there is 'no chance' they would cast their vote for him.
The Star Tribune finding that there is barely lukewarm support in Pawlenty's home state for him to seek the highest office in the land, comes as Pawlenty has been running a distant fifth or sixth in (very) early national GOP horserace polls behind more well-known potential candidates such as Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, and Newt Gingrich.
While Pawlenty's support would likely grow nationwide once he launched an official candidacy (he launches his Freedom First PAC on Thursday), the new Minnesota Poll raises the question - could Pawlenty win the presidency without carrying his home state of Minnesota?
While it is still 2.5 years out from even the presidential primaries, the question is not a far-fetched one to consider from one perspective - a mid-September Rasmussen poll found half of Minnesotans to believe Pawlenty will win the GOP nomination should he run for President.
As analyzed by Smart Politics last week, no president has come from Minnesota to date, and only one has come from the Upper Midwest region (Herbert Hoover, from Iowa, in 1928).
Still, history has demonstrated that it is (nearly) a necessary though not a sufficient condition that presidential nominees must carry their home state if they wish to win the presidency.
A Smart Politics analysis of the 56 presidential elections since 1789 found that all but two presidents carried their home state en route to victory.
The first president to win the White House without his home state was Democrat James Polk in 1844. Polk lost Tennessee by just 123 votes to Kentucky's Henry Clay out of nearly 120,000 cast, but still defeated Clay 170-105 in the Electoral College vote.
Then, in 1916, Democratic incumbent Woodrow Wilson lost his home state of New Jersey by 11.7 points to New York GOPer Charles Hughes. Wilson had carried New Jersey by 7.6 points in 1912 over New Yorker Teddy Roosevelt.
That's the entire list.
As such, it does not appear that Pawlenty could have much success in 2012 if he fails to at least enlist Minnesotans among his supporters for such a bid.
Home State Presidential Vote for U.S. Presidents
Year |
President |
State |
Won |
Percent |
MoV |
2008 |
Obama |
Illinois |
Yes |
61.9 |
25.1 |
2004 |
Bush |
Texas |
Yes |
61.1 |
22.9 |
2000 |
Bush |
Texas |
Yes |
59.3 |
21.3 |
1996 |
Clinton |
Arkansas |
Yes |
53.7 |
16.9 |
1992 |
Clinton |
Arkansas |
Yes |
53.2 |
17.7 |
1988 |
Bush |
Texas |
Yes |
56.0 |
12.6 |
1984 |
Reagan |
California |
Yes |
57.5 |
16.2 |
1980 |
Reagan |
California |
Yes |
52.7 |
16.8 |
1976 |
Carter |
Georgia |
Yes |
66.7 |
33.8 |
1972 |
Nixon |
California |
Yes |
55.0 |
13.5 |
1968 |
Nixon |
California |
Yes |
47.8 |
3.1 |
1964 |
L. Johnson |
Texas |
Yes |
63.3 |
26.8 |
1960 |
Kennedy |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
60.2 |
20.7 |
1956 |
Eisenhower |
Pennsylvania |
Yes |
56.5 |
13.2 |
1952 |
Eisenhower |
Pennsylvania |
Yes |
52.7 |
5.9 |
1948 |
Truman |
Missouri |
Yes |
58.1 |
16.6 |
1944 |
F. Roosevelt |
New York |
Yes |
52.3 |
5.0 |
1940 |
F. Roosevelt |
New York |
Yes |
51.6 |
3.6 |
1936 |
F. Roosevelt |
New York |
Yes |
58.9 |
19.9 |
1932 |
F. Roosevelt |
New York |
Yes |
54.1 |
12.7 |
1928 |
Hoover |
Iowa |
Yes |
61.8 |
24.2 |
1924 |
Coolidge |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
62.3 |
37.4 |
1920 |
Harding |
Ohio |
Yes |
58.5 |
19.9 |
1916 |
Wilson |
New Jersey |
No |
42.7 |
-11.7 |
1912 |
Wilson |
New Jersey |
Yes |
41.2 |
7.6 |
1908 |
Taft |
Ohio |
Yes |
51.0 |
6.2 |
1904 |
T. Roosevelt |
New York |
Yes |
53.1 |
10.9 |
1900 |
McKinley |
Ohio |
Yes |
52.3 |
6.6 |
1896 |
McKinley |
Ohio |
Yes |
51.9 |
4.8 |
1892 |
Cleveland |
New York |
Yes |
49.0 |
3.4 |
1888 |
B. Harrison |
Indiana |
Yes |
49.1 |
0.4 |
1884 |
Cleveland |
New York |
Yes |
48.3 |
0.1 |
1880 |
Garfield |
Ohio |
Yes |
51.7 |
4.7 |
1876 |
Hayes |
Ohio |
Yes |
50.2 |
1.1 |
1872 |
Grant |
Ohio |
Yes |
53.2 |
7.1 |
1868 |
Grant |
Ohio |
Yes |
54.0 |
8.0 |
1864 |
Lincoln |
Illinois |
Yes |
54.4 |
8.8 |
1860 |
Lincoln |
Illinois |
Yes |
50.7 |
3.5 |
1856 |
Buchanan |
Pennsylvania |
Yes |
50.1 |
18.1 |
1852 |
Pierce |
New Hampshire |
Yes |
56.4 |
25.8 |
1848 |
Taylor |
Louisiana |
Yes |
54.6 |
9.2 |
1844 |
Polk |
Tennessee |
No |
50.0 |
-0.1 |
1840 |
W.H. Harrison |
Ohio |
Yes |
54.1 |
8.5 |
1836 |
Van Buren |
New York |
Yes |
54.6 |
9.3 |
1832 |
Jackson |
Tennessee |
Yes |
95.4 |
90.8 |
1828 |
Jackson |
Tennessee |
Yes |
95.2 |
90.4 |
1824 |
J.Q. Adams |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
73.0 |
57.2 |
1820 |
Monroe |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1816 |
Monroe |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1812 |
Madison |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1808 |
Madison |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1804 |
Jefferson |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1800 |
Jefferson |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1796 |
J. Adams |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1792 |
Washington |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
1789 |
Washington |
Virginia |
Yes |
--- |
--- |
Normally, a failure to win one's home state spells disaster for a presidential nominee.
In total, 27 of the 29 major political party candidates who have not carried their home state since 1824, lost the presidential election.That means nearly half (27) of the 60 defeated presidential candidates who have carried at least 1 state in the general election since 1824 failed to win their home state.
(Beginning in 1824 most, but not all states selected electors based on popular vote).
The most recent candidate to fall into this category is, of course, Al Gore of Tennessee in the 2000 presidential election. Gore is one of two presidential candidates who would have won the general election had they simply carried their home state on Election Day. Tennessee's 11 electoral votes would more than have made up for Gore's Electoral College deficit to George W. Bush.
The other candidate whose presidential bid was derailed by his inability to win his home state was Grover Cleveland during his reelection campaign of 1888. Cleveland lost his home state of New York's 36 electoral votes by 1.1 points (14,373 votes), which would have flipped Benjamin Harrison's 233-168 Electoral College victory to a 204-197 margin for Cleveland. Cleveland won the Empire State in his two successful presidential bids - by 0.1 points in 1884 over James Blaine of Maine and by 3.4 points in 1892 during his rematch against Harrison.
Home State Presidential Vote Outcome Among Defeated Presidential Candidates
Year |
Candidate |
State |
Won |
Percent |
MoV |
2008 |
McCain |
Arizona |
Yes |
53.4 |
8.5 |
2004 |
Kerry |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
61.9 |
25.2 |
2000 |
Gore |
Tennessee |
No |
47.3 |
-3.9 |
1996 |
Dole |
Kansas |
Yes |
54.3 |
18.2 |
1992 |
Bush |
Texas |
Yes |
40.6 |
3.5 |
1988 |
Dukakis |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
53.2 |
7.9 |
1984 |
Mondale |
Minnesota |
Yes |
49.7 |
0.2 |
1980 |
Carter |
Georgia |
Yes |
55.8 |
14.8 |
1976 |
Ford |
Michigan |
Yes |
51.8 |
5.4 |
1972 |
McGovern |
South Dakota |
No |
45.5 |
-8.6 |
1968 |
Humphrey |
Minnesota |
Yes |
54.0 |
12.5 |
1968 |
Wallace |
Alabama |
Yes |
65.9 |
47.1 |
1964 |
Goldwater |
Arizona |
Yes |
50.5 |
1.0 |
1960 |
Nixon |
California |
Yes |
50.1 |
0.6 |
1956 |
Stevenson |
Illinois |
No |
40.3 |
-19.2 |
1952 |
Stevenson |
Illinois |
No |
44.9 |
-9.9 |
1948 |
Dewey |
New York |
Yes |
46.0 |
1.0 |
1948 |
Thurmond |
South Carolina |
Yes |
72.0 |
47.8 |
1944 |
Dewey |
New York |
No |
47.3 |
-5.0 |
1940 |
Wilkie |
New York |
No |
48.0 |
-3.6 |
1936 |
Landon |
Kansas |
No |
46.0 |
-7.7 |
1932 |
Hoover |
Iowa |
No |
40.0 |
-17.7 |
1928 |
Smith |
New York |
No |
47.4 |
-2.4 |
1924 |
Davis |
West Virginia |
No |
44.1 |
-5.4 |
1924 |
LaFollette |
Wisconsin |
Yes |
54.0 |
16.9 |
1920 |
Cox |
Ohio |
No |
38.6 |
-19.9 |
1916 |
Hughes |
New York |
Yes |
51.5 |
7.0 |
1912 |
T. Roosevelt |
New York |
No |
24.6 |
-16.7 |
1912 |
Taft |
Ohio |
No |
26.8 |
-14.1 |
1908 |
Bryan |
Nebraska |
Yes |
49.1 |
1.5 |
1904 |
Parker |
New York |
No |
42.3 |
-10.9 |
1900 |
Bryan |
Nebraska |
No |
47.2 |
-3.2 |
1896 |
Bryan |
Nebraska |
Yes |
51.3 |
3.7 |
1892 |
B. Harrison |
Indiana |
No |
46.2 |
-1.3 |
1892 |
Weaver |
Iowa |
No |
4.7 |
-45.0 |
1888 |
Cleveland |
New York |
No |
48.2 |
-1.1 |
1884 |
Blaine |
Maine |
Yes |
55.3 |
15.4 |
1880 |
Hancock |
Pennsylvania |
No |
46.6 |
-4.3 |
1876 |
Tilden |
New York |
Yes |
51.4 |
3.2 |
1872 |
Greeley |
New York |
No |
46.8 |
-6.5 |
1868 |
Seymour |
New York |
Yes |
50.6 |
1.2 |
1864 |
McClellan |
New Jersey |
Yes |
52.8 |
5.7 |
1860 |
Breckenridge |
Kentucky |
No |
36.4 |
-8.8 |
1860 |
Douglas |
Illinois |
No |
47.2 |
-3.5 |
1860 |
Bell |
Tennessee |
Yes |
47.7 |
3.2 |
1856 |
Fremont |
California |
No |
18.8 |
-29.6 |
1856 |
Fillmore |
New York |
No |
20.9 |
-25.4 |
1852 |
Scott |
New Jersey |
No |
46.3 |
-6.9 |
1848 |
Cass |
Michigan |
Yes |
47.2 |
10.4 |
1844 |
Clay |
Kentucky |
Yes |
54.1 |
8.2 |
1840 |
Van Buren |
New York |
No |
48.2 |
-3.0 |
1836 |
W. Harrison |
Ohio |
Yes |
51.9 |
4.3 |
1836 |
White |
Tennessee |
Yes |
57.9 |
15.8 |
1836 |
Webster |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
55.1 |
10.3 |
1832 |
Clay |
Kentucky |
Yes |
54.5 |
9.0 |
1832 |
Wirt |
Maryland |
No |
0.0 |
-50.0 |
1828 |
J.Q. Adams |
Massachusetts |
Yes |
76.4 |
61.0 |
1824 |
Jackson |
Tennessee |
Yes |
97.5 |
95.9 |
1824 |
Clay |
Kentucky |
Yes |
72.8 |
45.5 |
1824 |
Crawford |
Georgia |
Yes |
N/A* |
N/A* |
As for Pawlenty, while he gets credit for winning reelection in a light blue state in 2006, when many Republican incumbents across the country were getting soundly defeated, the knock on the Governor by his critics is that he has won fairly narrow victories in the Gopher State with only a plurality of the vote (due, in part, to stronger than normal third parties in Minnesota).
As for our recent presidents, not only have they been winning their home states en route to the White House, but they have been doing so by larger and larger margins in recent years.
· During the 9 presidential elections from 1976 through 2008, presidents have won their home states by an average of 20.4 points in the general election.
· During the previous 9 presidential elections, from 1940 through 1972, presidents won their home states by an average of just 12.0 points.
· Barack Obama's 25.1 point home state victory in Illinois in 2008 was the 4th largest such margin since 1856 (behind only Jimmy Carter's 33.8 point victory in Georgia in 1976, Lyndon Johnson's 26.8 point victory in Texas in 1964, and Calvin Coolidge's 37.4 point win in Massachusetts in 1924).
· Overall, across the 47 elections since 1824, victorious presidential candidates have won their home states by an average victory margin of 16.5 points.
As a historical note, there have been five instances since 1824 in which the two major party presidential nominees were from the same home state:
· 1860's four-candidate battle for the White House included Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas, both from Illinois.
· 1904 saw a matchup between New Yorkers Teddy Roosevelt and Alton Parker.
· 1920 was a battle between Ohioans Warren Harding and James Cox.
· 1940 saw a matchup between New Yorkers Franklin Roosevelt and Wendell Wilkie.
· 1944 matched Roosevelt against another New Yorker, Thomas Dewey.
In sum, history suggests that should Pawlenty emerge from the pack and become the Republican Party's presidential nominee in 2012, his ability or inability to win over Minnesotans will therefore likely be the first tell as to whether he will have success generally with his campaign.
For if Pawlenty fails to carry a home battleground state, he would likely struggle even more to win important neighboring battleground states such as Wisconsin and Iowa.
And we only have 3+ years to wait and see.
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Oh for crying out loud! The president is nine months into his first four-year term and you are already publishing stories like this. Can we please be without a presidential campaign -- and stories like these -- for about two years??????????
Posted by: Linda | October 1, 2009 11:29 AM
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