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Could Pawlenty Win the Presidency Without Minnesota?

A new Minnesota Poll released this week finds a majority of Gopher State residents opposed to a presidential bid by Governor Tim Pawlenty and a plurality of 43 percent saying there is 'no chance' they would cast their vote for him.

The Star Tribune finding that there is barely lukewarm support in Pawlenty's home state for him to seek the highest office in the land, comes as Pawlenty has been running a distant fifth or sixth in (very) early national GOP horserace polls behind more well-known potential candidates such as Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, and Newt Gingrich.

While Pawlenty's support would likely grow nationwide once he launched an official candidacy (he launches his Freedom First PAC on Thursday), the new Minnesota Poll raises the question - could Pawlenty win the presidency without carrying his home state of Minnesota?

While it is still 2.5 years out from even the presidential primaries, the question is not a far-fetched one to consider from one perspective - a mid-September Rasmussen poll found half of Minnesotans to believe Pawlenty will win the GOP nomination should he run for President.

As analyzed by Smart Politics last week, no president has come from Minnesota to date, and only one has come from the Upper Midwest region (Herbert Hoover, from Iowa, in 1928).

Still, history has demonstrated that it is (nearly) a necessary though not a sufficient condition that presidential nominees must carry their home state if they wish to win the presidency.

A Smart Politics analysis of the 56 presidential elections since 1789 found that all but two presidents carried their home state en route to victory.

The first president to win the White House without his home state was Democrat James Polk in 1844. Polk lost Tennessee by just 123 votes to Kentucky's Henry Clay out of nearly 120,000 cast, but still defeated Clay 170-105 in the Electoral College vote.

Then, in 1916, Democratic incumbent Woodrow Wilson lost his home state of New Jersey by 11.7 points to New York GOPer Charles Hughes. Wilson had carried New Jersey by 7.6 points in 1912 over New Yorker Teddy Roosevelt.

That's the entire list.

As such, it does not appear that Pawlenty could have much success in 2012 if he fails to at least enlist Minnesotans among his supporters for such a bid.

Home State Presidential Vote for U.S. Presidents

Year
President
State
Won
Percent
MoV
2008
Obama
Illinois
Yes
61.9
25.1
2004
Bush
Texas
Yes
61.1
22.9
2000
Bush
Texas
Yes
59.3
21.3
1996
Clinton
Arkansas
Yes
53.7
16.9
1992
Clinton
Arkansas
Yes
53.2
17.7
1988
Bush
Texas
Yes
56.0
12.6
1984
Reagan
California
Yes
57.5
16.2
1980
Reagan
California
Yes
52.7
16.8
1976
Carter
Georgia
Yes
66.7
33.8
1972
Nixon
California
Yes
55.0
13.5
1968
Nixon
California
Yes
47.8
3.1
1964
L. Johnson
Texas
Yes
63.3
26.8
1960
Kennedy
Massachusetts
Yes
60.2
20.7
1956
Eisenhower
Pennsylvania
Yes
56.5
13.2
1952
Eisenhower
Pennsylvania
Yes
52.7
5.9
1948
Truman
Missouri
Yes
58.1
16.6
1944
F. Roosevelt
New York
Yes
52.3
5.0
1940
F. Roosevelt
New York
Yes
51.6
3.6
1936
F. Roosevelt
New York
Yes
58.9
19.9
1932
F. Roosevelt
New York
Yes
54.1
12.7
1928
Hoover
Iowa
Yes
61.8
24.2
1924
Coolidge
Massachusetts
Yes
62.3
37.4
1920
Harding
Ohio
Yes
58.5
19.9
1916
Wilson
New Jersey
No
42.7
-11.7
1912
Wilson
New Jersey
Yes
41.2
7.6
1908
Taft
Ohio
Yes
51.0
6.2
1904
T. Roosevelt
New York
Yes
53.1
10.9
1900
McKinley
Ohio
Yes
52.3
6.6
1896
McKinley
Ohio
Yes
51.9
4.8
1892
Cleveland
New York
Yes
49.0
3.4
1888
B. Harrison
Indiana
Yes
49.1
0.4
1884
Cleveland
New York
Yes
48.3
0.1
1880
Garfield
Ohio
Yes
51.7
4.7
1876
Hayes
Ohio
Yes
50.2
1.1
1872
Grant
Ohio
Yes
53.2
7.1
1868
Grant
Ohio
Yes
54.0
8.0
1864
Lincoln
Illinois
Yes
54.4
8.8
1860
Lincoln
Illinois
Yes
50.7
3.5
1856
Buchanan
Pennsylvania
Yes
50.1
18.1
1852
Pierce
New Hampshire
Yes
56.4
25.8
1848
Taylor
Louisiana
Yes
54.6
9.2
1844
Polk
Tennessee
No
50.0
-0.1
1840
W.H. Harrison
Ohio
Yes
54.1
8.5
1836
Van Buren
New York
Yes
54.6
9.3
1832
Jackson
Tennessee
Yes
95.4
90.8
1828
Jackson
Tennessee
Yes
95.2
90.4
1824
J.Q. Adams
Massachusetts
Yes
73.0
57.2
1820
Monroe
Virginia
Yes
---
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1816
Monroe
Virginia
Yes
---
---
1812
Madison
Virginia
Yes
---
---
1808
Madison
Virginia
Yes
---
---
1804
Jefferson
Virginia
Yes
---
---
1800
Jefferson
Virginia
Yes
---
---
1796
J. Adams
Massachusetts
Yes
---
---
1792
Washington
Virginia
Yes
---
---
1789
Washington
Virginia
Yes
---
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Data compiled by Smart Politics.

Normally, a failure to win one's home state spells disaster for a presidential nominee.

In total, 27 of the 29 major political party candidates who have not carried their home state since 1824, lost the presidential election.That means nearly half (27) of the 60 defeated presidential candidates who have carried at least 1 state in the general election since 1824 failed to win their home state.

(Beginning in 1824 most, but not all states selected electors based on popular vote).

The most recent candidate to fall into this category is, of course, Al Gore of Tennessee in the 2000 presidential election. Gore is one of two presidential candidates who would have won the general election had they simply carried their home state on Election Day. Tennessee's 11 electoral votes would more than have made up for Gore's Electoral College deficit to George W. Bush.

The other candidate whose presidential bid was derailed by his inability to win his home state was Grover Cleveland during his reelection campaign of 1888. Cleveland lost his home state of New York's 36 electoral votes by 1.1 points (14,373 votes), which would have flipped Benjamin Harrison's 233-168 Electoral College victory to a 204-197 margin for Cleveland. Cleveland won the Empire State in his two successful presidential bids - by 0.1 points in 1884 over James Blaine of Maine and by 3.4 points in 1892 during his rematch against Harrison.

Home State Presidential Vote Outcome Among Defeated Presidential Candidates

Year
Candidate
State
Won
Percent
MoV
2008
McCain
Arizona
Yes
53.4
8.5
2004
Kerry
Massachusetts
Yes
61.9
25.2
2000
Gore
Tennessee
No
47.3
-3.9
1996
Dole
Kansas
Yes
54.3
18.2
1992
Bush
Texas
Yes
40.6
3.5
1988
Dukakis
Massachusetts
Yes
53.2
7.9
1984
Mondale
Minnesota
Yes
49.7
0.2
1980
Carter
Georgia
Yes
55.8
14.8
1976
Ford
Michigan
Yes
51.8
5.4
1972
McGovern
South Dakota
No
45.5
-8.6
1968
Humphrey
Minnesota
Yes
54.0
12.5
1968
Wallace
Alabama
Yes
65.9
47.1
1964
Goldwater
Arizona
Yes
50.5
1.0
1960
Nixon
California
Yes
50.1
0.6
1956
Stevenson
Illinois
No
40.3
-19.2
1952
Stevenson
Illinois
No
44.9
-9.9
1948
Dewey
New York
Yes
46.0
1.0
1948
Thurmond
South Carolina
Yes
72.0
47.8
1944
Dewey
New York
No
47.3
-5.0
1940
Wilkie
New York
No
48.0
-3.6
1936
Landon
Kansas
No
46.0
-7.7
1932
Hoover
Iowa
No
40.0
-17.7
1928
Smith
New York
No
47.4
-2.4
1924
Davis
West Virginia
No
44.1
-5.4
1924
LaFollette
Wisconsin
Yes
54.0
16.9
1920
Cox
Ohio
No
38.6
-19.9
1916
Hughes
New York
Yes
51.5
7.0
1912
T. Roosevelt
New York
No
24.6
-16.7
1912
Taft
Ohio
No
26.8
-14.1
1908
Bryan
Nebraska
Yes
49.1
1.5
1904
Parker
New York
No
42.3
-10.9
1900
Bryan
Nebraska
No
47.2
-3.2
1896
Bryan
Nebraska
Yes
51.3
3.7
1892
B. Harrison
Indiana
No
46.2
-1.3
1892
Weaver
Iowa
No
4.7
-45.0
1888
Cleveland
New York
No
48.2
-1.1
1884
Blaine
Maine
Yes
55.3
15.4
1880
Hancock
Pennsylvania
No
46.6
-4.3
1876
Tilden
New York
Yes
51.4
3.2
1872
Greeley
New York
No
46.8
-6.5
1868
Seymour
New York
Yes
50.6
1.2
1864
McClellan
New Jersey
Yes
52.8
5.7
1860
Breckenridge
Kentucky
No
36.4
-8.8
1860
Douglas
Illinois
No
47.2
-3.5
1860
Bell
Tennessee
Yes
47.7
3.2
1856
Fremont
California
No
18.8
-29.6
1856
Fillmore
New York
No
20.9
-25.4
1852
Scott
New Jersey
No
46.3
-6.9
1848
Cass
Michigan
Yes
47.2
10.4
1844
Clay
Kentucky
Yes
54.1
8.2
1840
Van Buren
New York
No
48.2
-3.0
1836
W. Harrison
Ohio
Yes
51.9
4.3
1836
White
Tennessee
Yes
57.9
15.8
1836
Webster
Massachusetts
Yes
55.1
10.3
1832
Clay
Kentucky
Yes
54.5
9.0
1832
Wirt
Maryland
No
0.0
-50.0
1828
J.Q. Adams
Massachusetts
Yes
76.4
61.0
1824
Jackson
Tennessee
Yes
97.5
95.9
1824
Clay
Kentucky
Yes
72.8
45.5
1824
Crawford
Georgia
Yes
N/A*
N/A*
* In 1824, electors in Georgia were chosen by the state legislature rather than by popular vote. Table lists all presidential candidates who lost their presidential bid since 1824 but carried at least one state. Data compiled by Smart Politics.

As for Pawlenty, while he gets credit for winning reelection in a light blue state in 2006, when many Republican incumbents across the country were getting soundly defeated, the knock on the Governor by his critics is that he has won fairly narrow victories in the Gopher State with only a plurality of the vote (due, in part, to stronger than normal third parties in Minnesota).

As for our recent presidents, not only have they been winning their home states en route to the White House, but they have been doing so by larger and larger margins in recent years.

· During the 9 presidential elections from 1976 through 2008, presidents have won their home states by an average of 20.4 points in the general election.

· During the previous 9 presidential elections, from 1940 through 1972, presidents won their home states by an average of just 12.0 points.

· Barack Obama's 25.1 point home state victory in Illinois in 2008 was the 4th largest such margin since 1856 (behind only Jimmy Carter's 33.8 point victory in Georgia in 1976, Lyndon Johnson's 26.8 point victory in Texas in 1964, and Calvin Coolidge's 37.4 point win in Massachusetts in 1924).

· Overall, across the 47 elections since 1824, victorious presidential candidates have won their home states by an average victory margin of 16.5 points.

As a historical note, there have been five instances since 1824 in which the two major party presidential nominees were from the same home state:

· 1860's four-candidate battle for the White House included Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas, both from Illinois.
· 1904 saw a matchup between New Yorkers Teddy Roosevelt and Alton Parker.
· 1920 was a battle between Ohioans Warren Harding and James Cox.
· 1940 saw a matchup between New Yorkers Franklin Roosevelt and Wendell Wilkie.
· 1944 matched Roosevelt against another New Yorker, Thomas Dewey.

In sum, history suggests that should Pawlenty emerge from the pack and become the Republican Party's presidential nominee in 2012, his ability or inability to win over Minnesotans will therefore likely be the first tell as to whether he will have success generally with his campaign.

For if Pawlenty fails to carry a home battleground state, he would likely struggle even more to win important neighboring battleground states such as Wisconsin and Iowa.

And we only have 3+ years to wait and see.

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Comments

Oh for crying out loud! The president is nine months into his first four-year term and you are already publishing stories like this. Can we please be without a presidential campaign -- and stories like these -- for about two years??????????

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