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December 18, 2006

Culture shock stories from England: Story format

By Sarah Hasselquist
Posted Dec. 18, 2006

Chicken and sweet corn pizza? It may seem weird to some American students at UMD, but those who studied in Birmingham, England, know about the culture differences between their study abroad location and Duluth.

Every year, approximately 50 UMD students travel to England to study abroad together for one school year at the University of Birmingham.

Lane Johnson, Brady Hern, Rachel Cooper, Matt Duea, and Scott Morril studied in last school year’s Birmingham program and discussed their culture shock experiences on both sides of the ocean.

Duea said that he had expected some differences in that he had heard that England and the U.S. were different socially. However, he did not anticipate that the airports, especially the terminals, would be so quiet.

“There were about 130 people in line at the airport and nobody was talking,� Duea said.

Duea added that people are expected to know a second language and that the students are from all over the world.

“They are well versed culturally,� he said. “They understand most cultures – not just one or two – because it is such a mixing pot.�

Public transportation is another cultural aspect that differs for the peoples of England compared to the U.S.

Johnson said that in England, it was convenient to use buses and trains.

“And then you come back to Duluth and you have these buses that come every hour, or it takes an hour and a half to get to the mall,� Johnson said. “It’s kind of a disappointment.�

Cooper said that she walked and used the buses more in England and added that it helped that things were closer together overseas.

“If I had an hour break between classes, the grocery store was a few minutes’ walk away from campus, so I’d go get my groceries,� Cooper said. “Then I’d just put them in the window sill at my class, and then carry them home after class.�

Morril said one aspect of culture shock for him was trying to talk with older English men in pubs who had heavy English accents.

“I think we all got pretty good at smiling and nodding after someone had mumbled something in a heavy Englsih accent that we couldn’t understand,� Morril said.

Morril said another notable thing about the English culture was what he called the English breakfast which included eggs, beans, sausage, bacon, and toast.

“I would kill for that,� Morril said with a laugh.

Hern and Johnson both agreed that the bacon itself is better in England.

“That’s not even a question, really. It’s like a thick slab, same thickness, and there’s not any fat in there. It’s the best part of our bacon, but huge,� Hern said.

Cooper said another difference between the cultures was putting sweet corn on pizza. She said that chicken and sweet corn or sweet corn and green peppers was not uncommon there on pizzas.

She also said the salads in England are different.

“Their salad is a large leaf of lettuce and maybe some cucumber or tomato, and you might have salad cream on it or with it, which is weird. I think it’s probably more like mayonnaise than salad dressing,� Cooper said. “And then you cut your lettuce as you eat it. I just don’t like the way the English do salads.�

Johnson said a distinctly English culture difference was the presence of chavves.

“They’re the scum of the earth, English style,� Johnson said. “They wear track suits, tuck their windpants into their socks and have white sneakers.�

He said that they were commonly found in the back of the bus smoking pot.

“They don’t do anything. They’re just there being annoying. If they’re drunk, they cause fights. Everyone who’s been to England has a chavve story. One person has punched one after being assaulted by him,� Johnson said.

With the cultural differences the students noticed in going to England, they also became realized more differences upon returning to the U.S.

“The stores are bigger. The country’s bigger. We’ve got to drive farther to get more places,� Johnson said. “Flying back in, I remember looking down and seeing all the lakes and baseball fields and thinking [that] I never realized we had this much water.�

Duea agreed and said that he thought things were much more spread out in the U.S.

“Even Minneapolis looked a lot more plush, green. It looked from the plane like it was planted in a meadow,� Duea said.

Morril said that in coming back to America, he became aware that Europeans were more apt to talk to about world issues than Americans.

“To come [back] to the U.S. was sort of like going from the Twin Cities to a small town in Iowa in that it’s a little more disconnected [from the rest of the world],� he said.

Morril said the American students who are going to travel between the metaphorical Twin Cities and Iowa already get too much advice regarding culture shock.

“If you go with a backpack and you’ve saived some money from the summer, you’ll be fine. You’re not going to die [if you don’t have everything planned]; you’ll be fine,� Morril said.

Hern agreed and said that the students here about how it will be in England, how to act, what to wear, and what to watch out for.

“Don’t listen to anybody,� Hern said. “You get the most out of it if you figure it out for yourself even if you act stupid sometimes.�

Duea’s advice was to go and said that it is all about being uncomfortable.

“That’s why it is so fulfilling over all,� Duea added.

Johnson said that saving money was important.

“Think about how much you think you’re going to need and double it, and that’s probably a good estimate,� Johnson said.

His other advice resembled that of a tennis shoe advertisement from the 1990’s: Just do it.

“Don’t think about it - just do it - because the more you think about it, the more it might keep you up at night,� said Johnson. “It all works out in the end anyways.�

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Culture shock stories from England: Q&A format

By Sarah Hasselquist
Posted Dec. 18, 2006

Chicken and sweet corn pizza? It may seem weird to some American students at UMD, but those who studied in Birmingham, England, understand some of the culture differences between Duluth and Birmingham.

Every year, approximately 50 UMD students travel to England to study abroad together for one school year at the University of Birmingham.

Lane Johnson, Brady Hern, Rachel Cooper, Matt Duea, and Scott Morril studied in last school year’s Birmingham program and shared their culture shock experiences on both sides of the ocean.

Question: Did you have expectations of culture shock before going to England that you were right about?

Johnson: The transit system is a sweet way to get around. It's convenient. And then you come back to Duluth and you have these buses that come every hour or it takes an hour and a half to get to the mall. It's kind of a disappointment.

Duea: I had heard that England and the U.S. were different socially. In line at the airport there were about 130 people in line and nobody was talking.

Q: Tell me about your experiences of culture shock.

Duea: A second language is expected over there. They [the students at Birmingham] are from all over. They are well versed culturally. They understand most cultures, not just one or two, because it is such a mixing pot.

Hern: The buses, driving on the left side of the road, eating different foods, meeting people. That's probably the biggest thing. You can adjust to eating different foods, but meeting different people is a pretty big deal.

Cooper: You rode the buses and walked so much more in Europe than you do here and, granted, it’s a lot easier, because things are closer together. If I had an hour break between classes, the grocery store from campus was a few minute’s walk away, so I’d go get my groceries and then, as long as I didn’t buy too many perishable things, I’d just put them in the window sill at my class, and then carry them home at the end of the day.

Morril: I think all of us for the first couple of weeks looked both ways like five times before we crossed the road. Small things like that. Trying to strike up conversations with old English guys in the pubs, sometimes they’d just have really heavy accents. I think we all got pretty good at like smiling and nodding after someone had mumbled something in a heavy English accent that we couldn’t understand.

Q: What was your experience with culture shock upon returning to the U.S.?

Johnson: The size of everything here. It's like everything is put in some sort of an enlargement chamber and blown up. The stores are bigger, the country's bigger, we got to drive farther to get more places. Flying back in, I remember looking down and seeing all the lakes and baseball fields and thinking, wow, I haven’t seen this in a long time. I never realized we had this much water.

Duea: It's much more spread out here. Even Minneapolis looked a lot more plush, green. It looked like it was planted in a meadow from the plane. Birmingham stretches for miles. It spreads all over. There are cities within cities. My address was not just Birmingham; it was Northfield, Birmingham.

Morril: The U.K., through its history and its geographical location, is really connected to the rest of the world. Generally, Europeans are more interested in what is going on in the world, and to come to the U.S. was sort of like going from the Twin Cities to a small town in Iowa in that it’s a little more disconnected [from the rest of the world].

Q: What did you miss about the U.S. culture while in Birmingham?

Hern: The only thing I missed that I didn't realize until I got home was gatorade. Can’t buy gatorade or anything like it.

Johnson: I’d say things like Ranch dressing. Gatorade, mountain dew. It's just all these little things that you don’t really care about, but then sometimes you get that craving for food, and you want a certain thing, and you can’t get it.

Cooper: I’d known going over that English peanut butter in general is not anything [like] American peanut butter, so I brought over two or three jars of Skippy with me. They don’t eat salad like we do. Their salad is a large leaf of lettuce and maybe some cucumber or tomato, and you might have salad cream on it or with it, which is weird. I think it’s probably more like mayonnaise than salad dressing. I don’t like it at all; it’s just gross. And then you cut your lettuce as you eat it. I just don’t like the way the English do salads.

Q: Do you miss anything from the British culture?

Hern: Bacon. That’s not even a question, really. It’s like a thick slab, same thickness, and there’s not any fat in there. It’s like the best part of our bacon, but huge.

Morril: The English breakfast is a wonderful thing. A couple eggs, beans, sausage, bacon, toast. I would kill for that. And some of the local brews were good. I miss the centralized city center, like there’s a zone for walking and shopping.

Cooper: Cadbury chocolate would be my number one. Putting sweet corn on pizza. Chicken and sweet corn, or sweet corn and green peppers on a pizza. It was just weird.

Johnson: Chavves. I don’t really miss them, but they’re the scum of the earth English style. They wear track suits, tuck their windpants into their socks and have white sneakers. If you're on a bus, you’ll can find a chavve because there’re in the back of the bus smoking pot and throwing stuff at you. They don’t do anything. They're just there being annoying. If they're drunk, they cause fights. Everyone has a chavve story who's been to England. One person has punched one after being assaulted by him. But you don’t see that here. I dont miss that at all, but I do, but not in a way that’s like ‘Oh, I gotta have my chavve dose.’ But that's one thing that's distinct about England.

Q: Do you have any advice for students who are going to study abroad?

Duea: Go. It’s all about being uncomfortable. That’s why it is so fulfilling over all.

Cooper: When you’re packing, think about clothes that you can maybe leave behind, because coming home you’re gonna have tons of new stuff you’ll want to bring home with you.

Hern: Don’t listen to anybody. When we went over there, we’d heard a lot of things about how it was going to be, how we should act, what to wear, to watch out for this and do this. You get the most out of it if you figure it out for yourself even if you act stupid sometimes.

Morril: I think they have too much advice as it is. If you go to England with a backpack, and you’ve saved some money from the summer, you’ll be fine. You’re not going to die [if you don’t have everything planned]; you’ll be fine.

Johnson: Save up a lot of money. Think about how much you think you're going to need, and double it, and that's probably a good estimate. And don’t think about it; just do it, because the more you think about it, the more it might keep you up at night. It all works out in the end anyways.

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