Devil Emoticons
I am in agreement with Maggie. ARG. I can't say I enjoyed reading The St. Martin's Sourcebook...oh, EXCEPT perhaps, the part in "The Tutoring Process" when the author(s) claim that,
"If both tutor and writer are experienced computer users, accustomed to chatting online, such 'emoticons' as wink or smile symbols can replace some of the interpersonal features of face-to-face tutorials" (24).
This is hilarious. And totally lame. As much as our daily lives involve technology, I think it is insane that emoticons could ever simulate actual human body language. Especially if we take into account North's essay which explores the holistic approach to tutoring. North writes that in order to implement the desired "participant-observer methodology," it is necessary for the tutor to "fit into [...] this ordinary solo ritual of writing" that each student has (39).
This field observation thing is hard enough when the student knows you're staring at them and poring over their paper. If it is so crucial that consultants feed on body language and other physical signs, it seems silly that this book would even suggest fake online "gestures." In fact, trying to squash this whole process onto the web makes the observation more blatant. Every pre-teen knows that the internet is this big, colorful, ambiguous space that you can do (almost) anything in. Shoving the observation and writing/brainstorming processes into a virtual realm, fraught with misinformation and impersonators, is sort of a weird idea.
At Friday's staff meeting, I happened to be in a group with Linda, who told us that many times students participating in online consultations will--after receiving the comments from the consultant--cop out on the actual chat portion of the session. I thought this might make for a nice discussion. The lines of communication are muy fuzzy on the internet. It allows kids to ditch out on the most important part (the observation part) of consulting, maybe because they're offended, maybe because they're excited to continue writing, or maybe because they're lazy. But, when students can hop in and out of this learning atmosphere without leaving a trace, I can't see why The Sourcebook is wasting its time discussing little yellow limited faces. Interaction is what's at stake. The essays we've been discussing are centered on student-consultant relationships, so to speak. How can we force this semi-intimate situation into a bizarre virtual one that includes thousands and thousands of other people, words, stimuli, and more processes besides the paper-writing one?
This is a pretty gigantic topic. I'm kind of regretting having launched into it...eek.
Comments
See? Technology, specifically blogging and internet stuff, is satanic. That's why I don't like it.
Posted by: Grant | September 16, 2007 7:54 PM
Yet you managed to comment on her blog entry...Or is this just your required comment for the week?
(oh, snap?)
Posted by: maggie | September 16, 2007 9:57 PM
I think the real problem lies in the emoticons we choose. I mean, why settle for a simple :-) when we could use, say, the Abe Lincoln?
==):-)=
Posted by: John Sharkey | September 16, 2007 11:55 PM
Ah yes. This is possible. After writing my blog entry, I discovered the sexy little scuba diver
..._(:)-o
hmmm...
Posted by: Emily S | September 17, 2007 8:39 AM
How about the Hitler?
>:=(
Posted by: Grant | September 17, 2007 9:04 AM
I wonder if there's a universal "Churchill" emoticon. . .it would probably be very effective for dealing with ESL students, but fall flat when dealing with the domestic front. . . .
Posted by: Sharkey | September 17, 2007 10:44 AM
Along that line, then, John, we totally need an FDR emoticon, too.
"We have nothing to fear [as regards writing] but fear itself!"
Posted by: Grant | September 17, 2007 11:00 AM
how about the "really happy"
C:
or the WHATNOWAI
D:
Posted by: Meher | September 17, 2007 2:03 PM
haha...I always feel like an idiot when I laugh at something online and no one else is in the room...anyway.
I feel like it is so easy to hate on the internet; I mean come on, we are replacing precious human interaction with a computer screen! Pretty soon, they [computers] are going to get too smart and take over the world.
I have an irrational fear of robots and movies like the matrix happening.
But, (ohhh breaking some grammar rules!) there are some definate advantages to internet consulting. Pehaps students who would never consider going to an actual person for writing help (whether it be lack of time, confidence or social skills) would receive the needed help that they wouldn't otherwise get?
I don't know though- I still prefer real people talking to me rather than an emoticon conveying the meaning. Though I must say, you all have impressed me with your extensive knowledge of these little faces. Kind of weird. :) (So, does this comment not seem as mean because I have a smiley face behind it? Because I really didn't mean it to be mean!)
Posted by: Jenna | September 17, 2007 6:35 PM
It actually did sound less mean...crap. Although, I'm not sure I thought it was mean in the first place. BUT SEE?! That's the problem! And how do I know you're not still snickering, alone in your room, oh anonymous commenter?
But anyway, isn't it great that we're all "hating [or not hating] on the internet" on the internet? Ha! This topic is insane. Sorry.
Posted by: Emily S | September 17, 2007 7:50 PM
xD
Posted by: Yi | September 17, 2007 10:57 PM
Well, all faces aside (hehe), this is indeed a "gigantic" topic. For some reason your post reminded me a lot of facebook, instant messages, LOL & the condensation of language on the net...well, u guys know wut i'm talking bout...
Like Emily said, the idea of this "virtual realm" interferes with the idea of having a tangible, interpersonal one-on-one tutoring session. However, Murphy/Sherwood also mention the upside of consulting online: the idea of not having "physical" barriers (consultant worrying about how the student will react to his/her pointers & consultant being able to communicate fully what the he/she wants to say to the student).
Although I can't quite pin down my thoughts on how to judge & weigh the benefits and setbacks of online consulting right now, I just realized that I'm definitely better at writing/typing down my thoughts. (What I'm trying to say is, by writing down what I'm thinking, I'm able to read what I'm thinking & make it make sense) Whether that's a good thing or not when it comes to online consulting: I don't know. Sure, it could mean the student will better understand what I'm trying to convey to him/her, but I could also think too much before I type/speak, thus destroying the personal, natural teaching session that we try to achieve.
?????? #-o
Posted by: Yi | September 17, 2007 11:16 PM
i'm not doing online tutoring, so this is all purely speculation. it seems like online tutoring, while not allowing us to pick up on body language, has other things going for it that might be useful for particular kinds of writers/tutors. as someone who takes a while to gather my thoughts, or to respond to questions, i sometimes feel like it's hard to quickly read a paper and be able to quickly turn around and offer useful feedback. in class, being a consultee, i sometimes find it hard to immediately explain myself when the consultant asks me what i'm thinking somewhere. i think you can try to make a consulting session feel comfortable enough for someone to think out loud and be confused...but sometimes, the reality of personal interactions make this hard. (for example, when a student's clearly uncomfortable while you're reading their paper, doesn't it make you want to hurry? and doesn't that sometimes make it hard to give effective feedback?) no answers there, but interesting to think about...
Posted by: miranda | September 18, 2007 12:30 PM
Hi--
Katie invited those of us not in your class to lurk--so I've skimmed postings a couple of times. I hope that's OK...
I just want to add a bit of clarification about my comment about students not coming to the chat when they submit papers to SWS.online. I apologize if I said many of them don't come--I should have said that a few of them don't come. And it's interesting to me--we don't know why. There are all sorts of possible reasons. But I'm glad it's only a few who don't come.
Thanks for letting me jump in...
Posted by: Linda Clemens | September 24, 2007 3:51 PM
Hi Linda! I didn't mean to put you on the spot in this blog entry, I just remembered you commenting on sws.online and shared your interest. Thanks for the clarification...I guess it's interesting either way...
Posted by: Emily S | September 24, 2007 6:05 PM
Emoticons are really a big help in communicating online. Although it couldn't represent your exact mood sometimes, it could at least give a hint to it.
Consulting online can help students develop their communication skills. There is also less shyness in their part if they want to consult something.
Posted by: Communication Skills | November 20, 2007 3:55 PM
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