Post two questions/comments in response to the reading
Posted by Capper Nichols on February 15, 2006 08:37 AM|Permalink
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Wow, I don't even now what to say after reading about Coleen dying. I guess I'm just dumbstruck. I didn't think that would be the tragedy of this book. I have a daughter and I can't even comprehend how I would feel if I saw her float past me, knowing that there was nothing I could do about it. I think I would seriously lose my mind. The fact that Heimo was able to keep on functioning after that ordeal is truly amazing.
After that nothing else seems that important, but I was just curious on page 135 the book makes a note that Alaska's Constitutional Budget Reserve would have been exhausted by 2004. Did this occur? If not what happened to change the outcome?
Okay, sorry about that. I just figured we could all use a little pick-me-up after reading about Colleen floating away to her death. Wow. I have little else to say.
On page 121 Campbell was describing "springing out", which means people in the bush do not go to town until the break up. He says that this is the hardest psychological time of the year. I think it's a hard time of the year for everyone. Most people can't wait for spring and summer to arrive. The worst part about "springing out" is that there is nothing to do. Snow is usually melting, lakes are thawing, and yet it is still too cold to do summer recreational activities. My question to the class is, what's the hardest psychological time of the year for you?
In repsonce to Jamie's comment, I don't think the were all that concerned with summer recreational activities but rather more with staying alive. They were morconcerned with when they would be able to get to town to get the supplies they needed rather than when they would be able to go on there first summer canoe trip.
Well, I would have to agree with Katie and Carla, I don't know what i would do if I would lose a daughter like that.
I'm also not sure if I would be able to eat the beaver tail, but hey, maybe it tastes just like chicken, but I guess I'm in no hurry to find out firsthand.
There's one thing I've just got to say: Is anyone else hungry for a big chunck of beaver tail? I'm serious though, that part about eating beaver really made me hungry. I wonder if it really is that good? Will I ever find out first hand? I doubt it!
I wonder how much of the authors difficulty in communicating/understanding the girls was actually his fault. I would bet that part of the problem was that he didn't really know how to talk to young girls, and would have experienced the same difficulties with any other girls that age.
I like how the book included short stories of others who had lived in the backcountry. It is interesting to see how the other families decided it would be best to move to the cities while the Korths are still in the wilderness.
I found it interesting how native men where coming out of the backcountry while white men were going in. Was this due to cultural changes, personal prefernce, or each group being exposed to something completly different and taking the opportunity to explore it?
Ya I've actuallay herd beaver tail is pretty good from somewhere else as well. I've heard it is really fatty,so it would make sence to eat it in the winter to get more calories per wieght unit.
Heimo and the girls get really excited about "springing out" and moving to town for the summer where they can see old friends and hangout with them for a short time. I understand how these people feel at not being able to do anything because breakup is so near, yet so far away. Heimo for one starts getting real anxious for being able to get to town in time for ratting and the girls can't wait to do some catch up with friends and being finished with the current year of school.
Spring and summer is also a time for gathering food for the up coming winter. Campbell noticed on his arrival in the spring that Heimo had already chopped the wood for next winter and the girls often take Campbell with them to gather roots and berries. In the time that Campbell is with the girls, he learns a little bit more about them since they are often shy and reserve with him most of the time.
After the death of Coleen and the serious heath problems of Edna. I am surprised the Korths are still living in the bush 10.5 months of the year. However, i do think they will be faced with some hard choices in the future. With the girls getting older Heimo and Edna can no longer help them with their school work. Furthermore, technology is creeping in and exposing the Korths to the rest of the world. I think it's going to be harder to keep the girls satisfied and also keep eachother healthy as Heimo and Edna age. I'm not sure if Heimo and Edna will ever return to the way of life they are leaving behind.
I would have to agree with the people who posted on Coleen dying. That, for me, would be the turning point in my life and I would most likely head out of the wilderness and back into the city.
I thought it was very interesting how the bush pilots could stop in such short distances as mentioned in class and showed in the movie.
I would have to agree with the people who posted on Coleen dying. That, for me, would be the turning point in my life and I would most likely head out of the wilderness and back into the city.
I thought it was very interesting how the bush pilots could stop in such short distances as mentioned in class and showed in the movie.
It is kind of strange to think that Rhonda went to high school in Appleton, WI for a time. I know some people from there. Does anyone know the exact year that she went there and what grade she was in? I am curious to see if she would have been in the same grade as some of my friends.
After Millie goes to stay with Edna's parents there really isn't any mention of her. Does she keep in contact with Edna at all? Or did she just disappear from there lives forever?
I agree with the people about coleens death. If I lost my child in that lifestyle I would not want to keep living like that and risk losing another child.
I was also surprised on how much Edna helped with everything.
In regards to the discussion on Wednesday about whether or not their style of living is "pure" wilderness since they have laptops and a satellite phone, I think after reading about Rhonda going to high school that it may not be "pure" per-say, but it is necessary, if just for the kids. They may have little skills with technology (or maybe they do), but there's a big difference in today's world between someone that can bring up Excel and someone that cannot even work with a touchpad.
One thing that I think is interesting is the fact of Colleen dying kind of just adds another depth to how much different Heimo's family is to us. Many people mentioned that if their own daughter was to pass away they would give up that type of lifestyle. However, none of us would likely be living that lifestyle anyway. My point is that Heimo's family is almost unhuman in their thoughts, actions and motivations.
Also, in regards to their children. If you look at the Colleen situation and looking ahead to future schooling for their two daughters, do they have their children's best interest at heart or not?
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Wow, I don't even now what to say after reading about Coleen dying. I guess I'm just dumbstruck. I didn't think that would be the tragedy of this book. I have a daughter and I can't even comprehend how I would feel if I saw her float past me, knowing that there was nothing I could do about it. I think I would seriously lose my mind. The fact that Heimo was able to keep on functioning after that ordeal is truly amazing.
After that nothing else seems that important, but I was just curious on page 135 the book makes a note that Alaska's Constitutional Budget Reserve would have been exhausted by 2004. Did this occur? If not what happened to change the outcome?
Posted by: Katie Hausladen | February 15, 2006 08:45 AM
Edna seems to do just as much work as Heimo does. She helps check traplines, builds tables, shelves, etc.
I am curious if all women who live in Alaska the way the Korths do, contribute that much to thier families?
Posted by: Amanda Melhorn | February 15, 2006 09:13 AM
mmmm....beaver tail
oh oh! and don't forget
the marrow!!!
Posted by: Carla Inderrieden | February 15, 2006 10:09 AM
A note to the class...
Never move to Taxachusetts.
Posted by: Carla Inderrieden | February 15, 2006 10:10 AM
Okay, sorry about that. I just figured we could all use a little pick-me-up after reading about Colleen floating away to her death. Wow. I have little else to say.
Posted by: Carla Inderrieden | February 15, 2006 10:11 AM
On page 121 Campbell was describing "springing out", which means people in the bush do not go to town until the break up. He says that this is the hardest psychological time of the year. I think it's a hard time of the year for everyone. Most people can't wait for spring and summer to arrive. The worst part about "springing out" is that there is nothing to do. Snow is usually melting, lakes are thawing, and yet it is still too cold to do summer recreational activities. My question to the class is, what's the hardest psychological time of the year for you?
Posted by: Jamie Seitzer | February 15, 2006 12:14 PM
In repsonce to Jamie's comment, I don't think the were all that concerned with summer recreational activities but rather more with staying alive. They were morconcerned with when they would be able to get to town to get the supplies they needed rather than when they would be able to go on there first summer canoe trip.
Posted by: Charlie Peterson | February 15, 2006 12:29 PM
Well, I would have to agree with Katie and Carla, I don't know what i would do if I would lose a daughter like that.
I'm also not sure if I would be able to eat the beaver tail, but hey, maybe it tastes just like chicken, but I guess I'm in no hurry to find out firsthand.
Posted by: Marc Huneke | February 16, 2006 09:12 PM
There's one thing I've just got to say: Is anyone else hungry for a big chunck of beaver tail? I'm serious though, that part about eating beaver really made me hungry. I wonder if it really is that good? Will I ever find out first hand? I doubt it!
I wonder how much of the authors difficulty in communicating/understanding the girls was actually his fault. I would bet that part of the problem was that he didn't really know how to talk to young girls, and would have experienced the same difficulties with any other girls that age.
Posted by: Katrina Hopkins | February 16, 2006 10:23 PM
I like how the book included short stories of others who had lived in the backcountry. It is interesting to see how the other families decided it would be best to move to the cities while the Korths are still in the wilderness.
I found it interesting how native men where coming out of the backcountry while white men were going in. Was this due to cultural changes, personal prefernce, or each group being exposed to something completly different and taking the opportunity to explore it?
Posted by: Becca Haack | February 17, 2006 12:17 AM
Ya I've actuallay herd beaver tail is pretty good from somewhere else as well. I've heard it is really fatty,so it would make sence to eat it in the winter to get more calories per wieght unit.
Posted by: Charlie Peterson | February 17, 2006 01:12 AM
Heimo and the girls get really excited about "springing out" and moving to town for the summer where they can see old friends and hangout with them for a short time. I understand how these people feel at not being able to do anything because breakup is so near, yet so far away. Heimo for one starts getting real anxious for being able to get to town in time for ratting and the girls can't wait to do some catch up with friends and being finished with the current year of school.
Spring and summer is also a time for gathering food for the up coming winter. Campbell noticed on his arrival in the spring that Heimo had already chopped the wood for next winter and the girls often take Campbell with them to gather roots and berries. In the time that Campbell is with the girls, he learns a little bit more about them since they are often shy and reserve with him most of the time.
Posted by: Jessica Bryan | February 17, 2006 07:58 AM
After the death of Coleen and the serious heath problems of Edna. I am surprised the Korths are still living in the bush 10.5 months of the year. However, i do think they will be faced with some hard choices in the future. With the girls getting older Heimo and Edna can no longer help them with their school work. Furthermore, technology is creeping in and exposing the Korths to the rest of the world. I think it's going to be harder to keep the girls satisfied and also keep eachother healthy as Heimo and Edna age. I'm not sure if Heimo and Edna will ever return to the way of life they are leaving behind.
Posted by: Jamie Seitzer | February 17, 2006 08:11 AM
I would have to agree with the people who posted on Coleen dying. That, for me, would be the turning point in my life and I would most likely head out of the wilderness and back into the city.
I thought it was very interesting how the bush pilots could stop in such short distances as mentioned in class and showed in the movie.
Posted by: Adam Dicke | February 17, 2006 08:13 AM
I would have to agree with the people who posted on Coleen dying. That, for me, would be the turning point in my life and I would most likely head out of the wilderness and back into the city.
I thought it was very interesting how the bush pilots could stop in such short distances as mentioned in class and showed in the movie.
Posted by: Adam Dicke | February 17, 2006 08:14 AM
After reading the part about Coleen's death, I decided that there were some less-than-admirable traits of Heimo that we need to discuss.
Posted by: Tristan Beaster | February 17, 2006 08:50 AM
It is kind of strange to think that Rhonda went to high school in Appleton, WI for a time. I know some people from there. Does anyone know the exact year that she went there and what grade she was in? I am curious to see if she would have been in the same grade as some of my friends.
After Millie goes to stay with Edna's parents there really isn't any mention of her. Does she keep in contact with Edna at all? Or did she just disappear from there lives forever?
Posted by: Katie Hausladen | February 17, 2006 08:51 AM
...I meant discuss in class
Posted by: Tristan Beaster | February 17, 2006 08:51 AM
Does Heimo ever mention resenting American culture for being so wasteful? I mean he saves used toilet paper...
Did they ever mention why millie and Heimo didn't get along before the incidence with Colleen?
Posted by: Nick Miller | February 17, 2006 09:21 AM
I agree with the people about coleens death. If I lost my child in that lifestyle I would not want to keep living like that and risk losing another child.
I was also surprised on how much Edna helped with everything.
Posted by: Alicia Lund | February 17, 2006 09:43 AM
In regards to the discussion on Wednesday about whether or not their style of living is "pure" wilderness since they have laptops and a satellite phone, I think after reading about Rhonda going to high school that it may not be "pure" per-say, but it is necessary, if just for the kids. They may have little skills with technology (or maybe they do), but there's a big difference in today's world between someone that can bring up Excel and someone that cannot even work with a touchpad.
Posted by: Mike Bush | February 17, 2006 10:19 AM
One thing that I think is interesting is the fact of Colleen dying kind of just adds another depth to how much different Heimo's family is to us. Many people mentioned that if their own daughter was to pass away they would give up that type of lifestyle. However, none of us would likely be living that lifestyle anyway. My point is that Heimo's family is almost unhuman in their thoughts, actions and motivations.
Also, in regards to their children. If you look at the Colleen situation and looking ahead to future schooling for their two daughters, do they have their children's best interest at heart or not?
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