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May 21, 2006

Hallelujah!

YES!
House passage

71-61
Senate passage

34-32
My thanks to all the legislators who voted yes. You have saved baseball in Minnesota.

Posted by snackeru at May 21, 2006 6:43 AM | Stadiums 2006

Comments

Wow, was that close! Congrats everyone!

Posted by: Grant at May 21, 2006 6:58 AM

Agreed.

Posted by: David Howe at May 21, 2006 7:18 AM

I really dislike Marty all he did all night was try and derail this.. I am glad it got passed

Posted by: scott at May 21, 2006 7:33 AM

Now we all can rest now. Minnesota Twins will going to build new ballpark for real this time. It about time since 10 years. I cant wait to go new ballpark year 2010.

Posted by: Nolan at May 21, 2006 7:33 AM

Ahhhh.... I need a drink after all of that. Oh wait, it is sunday morning. Shoot.

Thanks Shane for keeping us informed.

Posted by: Ryan at May 21, 2006 8:14 AM

Thanks Shane. I've really enjoyed your takes on things and hope that "Greet Machine" will stick around in one way or another (even if it's just an occasional blog).

Posted by: Eric at May 21, 2006 8:46 AM

Wonderful news. Congratulations, Shane!

Posted by: Jeff A at May 21, 2006 8:50 AM

HOOOOOOOOORAY!!!! Thanks Shane, for all your hard work and dedication to the cause (and for helping me with my fake stadium plan 13 months ago).

Posted by: Will Young at May 21, 2006 9:45 AM

i didnt think this day would ever come, honestly i was convinced our twins would be out of here. all i can think about is al michaels' quote after the usa beat finland in the 1980 olympics for the gold, "this impossible dream comes true!"
my only question is, who do i call for season tickets starting in 2010?

Posted by: Karl at May 21, 2006 10:06 AM

Thanks for your help in providing a one-stop shop for Twins stadium news for so long, I've been a frequent reader. We are now guaranteed Twins baseball in Minnesota until 2040. Flippin' sweet.

Posted by: twayn at May 21, 2006 10:18 AM

my only question is, who do i call for season tickets starting in 2010?

Be prepared to fork over $1000ish just for a personal seat license for the right to purchase season tickets (this will start eating into the $130 mil team contribution).

Posted by: Will Young at May 21, 2006 10:35 AM

South Dakota TWINS fans thank YOU!!!! Will spend a lot of money in henippen county NOW

Posted by: oliver at May 21, 2006 10:40 AM

The legislature just voted to stick it to Hennepin County. The sales tax exemption for municipalities was stripped from the bill - which means this is also a property tax increase.

And I'll be buying my next car in Ramsey County. I'm calling some Hennepin County Auto Dealers on Monday telling them, they can thank Mike Opat for that one.

Posted by: Eva Young at May 21, 2006 10:45 AM

Too bad cars are exempt from this sales tax:)

Posted by: Luke at May 21, 2006 10:55 AM

WE DID IT SHANE!!!

after 10 long years of fighting, WE WIN!

I'm just happy I could play a small part in this success.

Literally... I'm on the verge of tears this morning... and why not?

Playball Minnesota!

Posted by: BT at May 21, 2006 11:22 AM

Thanks for all your work Shane......I have been obsessed with your site since I saw you on the news a few weeks ago. Since I am also a HUGE Vikings fan.....I think you should write about the viks next year. But in the mean time I think you need a vacation.

Posted by: MOJO at May 21, 2006 11:29 AM

it was nice to fly into minneapolis yesterday and watch what unfolded last night. This will be a great holiday back home with family knowing in the future I can visit and watch the Twins outside on REAL grass!!!!

Thanks Shane and remember my standing offer in AZ!!

Posted by: kevin in az at May 21, 2006 11:52 AM

Very happy to see this Shane! I'm bringing over the Irish Whiskey on Monday night for a celebratory drink.

Posted by: Cheesehead Craig at May 21, 2006 12:07 PM

Terrific job, Shane. Your leadership and activism certainly helped. I hope you keep stadium blogging while this thing is being built!

Posted by: Batgirl at May 21, 2006 12:07 PM

Thanks Shane for the information provided on this site.
While I am thriled about the stadium being passed, I won't be completely relieved until I am sitting in a seat in 2010- I just fear there will be a lawsuit that puts this on hold. Sorry to be pessemistic but this is too good to be true.

Posted by: matt at May 21, 2006 12:15 PM

From the Startribune....I might have to go to this game-

Governor Pawlenty says he expects to sign the Twins and Gopher stadium bills sometime this week.
Appearing on WCCO-AM, Pawlenty said he might sign the Twins stadium bill at a Twins game later this week.

The governor says he probably will sign the Gopher stadium bill on the University of Minnesota campus, also this week.

Pawlenty says having a successful college football program brings a lot of energy and excitement to a university - not just in sports, but also for a school's reputation and visibility.

Plus, he says, "it'll just be a heck of a lot of fun."

Posted by: MOJO at May 21, 2006 12:26 PM

Really sweet website -

www.ballparks.com

Posted by: MOJO at May 21, 2006 12:42 PM

Terrific job, Shane.

Posted by: ss at May 21, 2006 1:50 PM

Thanks to all the legislators who voted Yes on this. (No thanks to my own legislators, though my Rep. was appearantly a 'back-pocket' vote) but that's another story.

And thanks to Shane for all the work you've done on this. Hopefully after your vacation you'll be up to press on for the Vikings.

Posted by: David Howe at May 21, 2006 2:07 PM

Congratulations!

Posted by: bjhess at May 21, 2006 4:01 PM

ditto shane! congrats, and congrats to all Twins fans. This is a good good day.

Marty eh? heh. I just moved into HIS neighborhood. I'm going to send him some nasty letters. :)

Congrats again Shane. All your hard work appears to have a happy ending!!!

D33

Posted by: drake33 at May 21, 2006 4:10 PM

way to go Shane. You are the best!

Posted by: Vince at May 21, 2006 4:34 PM

It good that the Twins stadium is finally a reality, as they can now play in a baseball oriented ballpark rather then a football stadium or multi purpose stadium.

The Vikings get to wait until next year which is ok, as it gives them time to campaign and put together an acceptable plan.

However, the legislature left out the DECC expansion, which I supported. The DECC expansion was badly needed, as the current rink is 40+ years old, seats only 5,500+ and the ice sheet is 20% smaller than what the Gophers have. Maybe next year the state legislature will give UMD a new stadium.

Posted by: Alex at May 21, 2006 5:04 PM

Does anyone think the Metrodome should be kept up in case of inclement weather or would the legal considerations make that impossible?

Posted by: Transic at May 21, 2006 5:44 PM

Wow, just wow. Can't wait until 2010.

Posted by: freealonzo at May 21, 2006 6:14 PM

Shane: Congratulations on 1) being such a integral part of the HUGE win and 2) hanging in there with the blog for as long as you did. More than I can say for myself. Lunch is on me in the very near future.

Brian (Mr. Cheer Or Die)

PS: Which Don Quioxite-esque windmill is next?

Posted by: Mr. Cheer Or Die at May 21, 2006 6:42 PM

Shane-
I am obviously thrilled with a new ballpark becoming a reality eventhough I had my slight St. Paul bias going. Let's just hope we do this ballpark right. Like Freealonzo I am all for a roofless balllpark but let's make sure they do everything else right for the average fan. Hopefully you can use your new friends and contacts and keep all of us updated throught the Greet Machine on the planning and layout of the ballpark. I think all your readers know what they want in a new ballpark and we should be calling the Twins or whoever if this ballpark for the fans starts leaning a little bit too much towards the suite crowd.
-Jiminstpaul

Posted by: Jiminstpaul at May 21, 2006 7:26 PM

jiminstpaul is right, Shane, there is no rest for the wicked -- or is it righteous? Now we will have a ballpark, but just what kind of ballpark? Some voice-of-the-people watchdogging is still essential. I remember Dan Bruttger and Don Poss assuring us that the Metrodome wouldn't need air-conditioning. I guess they were ahead of their times; this is the ballpark that won't need air-conditioning, but it will need attention to a lot of details, including outfield dimensions that are not too big and not too small. That was one thing that the Dome got right.

Posted by: oldstuffer at May 21, 2006 7:46 PM

Shane:

"This is not the end. This is not even the Biginning of the end. It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. Sir Winston Churchill

Posted by: Anonymous at May 21, 2006 7:48 PM

Shane:

"This is not the end. This is not even the Beginning of the end. It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning". Sir Winston Churchill

Posted by: Sir Winston at May 21, 2006 7:50 PM

Also, does anyone know where I can find the legislators who voted for and against. I still will vote those against it out, for lacking either the polticial courage or the foresight to appreciate what is needed to keep the Twin Cities a vibrant place in the future.

Posted by: Vince at May 21, 2006 7:57 PM

I've been hearing whispers that Hennepin County needs to hold more public hearings and take a final vote on this.

Anyone have any idea as to whether this is true or not?

Posted by: Trent at May 21, 2006 8:35 PM

Hennepin County does need to pass it....it won't be a problem though.

Posted by: MOJO at May 21, 2006 9:06 PM

I happen to oppose this boondoggle - but the legislator who really went on the line on this is Terri Bonoff in Minnetonka/Plymouth. Her opponent Judy Johnson will be using this issue against Terri Bonoff - as she should. Intelligent Design creationism - and Bonoff's opponent seeming to support that - played a huge role in that election.

You can bet people on the other side will be remembering this one come election time.

Steve Kelley will probably lose his chance at being the DFL standard bearer for Governor over this.

Posted by: Eva Young at May 21, 2006 9:19 PM

Luke:

Too bad cars are exempt from this sales tax:)

EY: Please post the language from the bill that backs up what you say.

Posted by: Eva Young at May 21, 2006 9:22 PM

So you say we're getting a new ballpark huh? Can't wait until 2010. Only about 1508 days away if the season opener is April 5, 2010. Yes, I actually counted.

Posted by: ML at May 21, 2006 9:48 PM

I lived in Omaha for ten years and then moved back to Minnesota - I know what a "cold Omaha" would have been like.....GO TWINS!

PLAY BALL MINNESOTA...PLAY BALL!

Posted by: maggie at May 21, 2006 9:50 PM

LIFE IS GOOD

We can all take a deep and rested breath, sure in the knowledge that TWINS baseball will soon be played in a "real" stadium.....oh, life is good!

Posted by: MAGGIE at May 21, 2006 9:55 PM

Congrats Shane!!

I was in cheddarland all weekend with no news available to me. First thing I did when I got home was to check your site. Great work!! For all of those threatening votes either way, just remember to do your homework on each candidate's entire platform and/or voting history. Would you really let the stadium topic sway your vote from someone who represents your interests 95%. What if his/her opponent would represent only 45% of your interests?? As for buying your car (or any other goods) in a different county... What if the car dealership owner lobbied hard to fight the stadium?? When you wake up tomorrow, please take a deep breath and re-assess. Also, do some research on how much the Twins, their employees and players pour into the community in the form of working with kids, building little league fields, financial and other contributions that they are doing VOLUNTARILY!! You hear too much about the slip ups by a handful of athletes, and not enough about the ones who truly do represent our state well. Breath... re-assess... and fight the next fight (like education or health care) with even more fervor than you did to fight about a game. I know I will because good people like Shane and many others just showed what can be done by getting involved and making their voices heard. Eva, I appreciate your passion and dedication to your beliefs... pour it into the next fight.

Posted by: zooom at May 21, 2006 11:09 PM

Oh... and I almost forgot... my birthday was today. I had a great weekend with family and friends. The stadium was the icing on the birthday cake. Thanks so much to everyone who made it possible. I also hope that Shane continues to blog about whatever next gets him riled up. I hope for a while he can just have some fun with it. I will definitely check in from time to time.

Posted by: zooom at May 21, 2006 11:14 PM

I want to thank you for doing a great job keeping track of what's going on with the Twins and the Gophers stadiums. You did a great job explaining it all. I am looking forward to read this next year with the Vikings.

I can't wait to see the Twins have their own stadium outdoors.

Posted by: Leslie Monteiro at May 22, 2006 12:03 AM

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House roll call on Twins stadium bill
Associated Press

Votes Saturday as the House, on a 71-61 vote, authorized a new Twins ballpark. Voting yes were 37 Republicans and 34 Democrats. Voting no were 31 Republicans and 30 Democrats.

REPUBLICANS VOTING YES

Beard (Shakopee); Blaine (Little Falls); Bradley (Rochester); Brod (New Prague); Charron (Woodbury); Cox (Northfield); Davids (Preston); Demmer (Hayfield); Dempsey (Red Wing); Dorman (Albert Lea); Eastlund (Isanti); Finstad (New Ulm); Garofalo (Farmington); Gazelka (Brainerd); Gunther (Fairmont); Hamilton (Mountain Lake); Heidgerken (Freeport); Hoppe (Chaska); Lanning (Moorhead); Magnus (Slayton); McNamara (Hastings); Meslow (White Bear Lake); Nelson, P. (Lindstrom); Nornes (Fergus Falls); Ozment (Rosemount); Penas (Badger); Peterson, N. (Bloomington); Ruth (Owatonna); Samuelson (New Brighton); Severson (Sauk Rapids); Simpson (New York Mills); Sviggum (Kenyon); Sykora (Excelsior); Tingelstad (Andover); Urdahl (Grove City); Wardlow (Eagan); Westerberg (Blaine)

REPUBLICANS VOTING NO

Abeler (Anoka); Abrams (Minnetonka); Anderson, B. (Buffalo Twp); Buesgens (Jordan); Cornish (Good Thunder); Cybart (Apple Valley); Dean (Dellwood); DeLaForest (Andover); Emmer (Delano); Erhardt (Edina); Erickson (Princeton); Hackbarth (Cedar); Holberg (Lakeville); Howes (Walker); Johnson, J. (Plymouth); Klinzing (Woodbury); Knoblach (St. Cloud); Kohls (Victoria); Krinkie (Lino Lakes); Newman (Hutchinson); Olson (Big Lake); Paulsen (Eden Prairie); Peppin (Rogers); Powell (Burnsville); Seifert (Marshall); Smith (Mound); Soderstrom (Mora); Vandeveer (Forest Lake); Westrom (Elbow Lake); Wilkin (Eagan); Zellers (Maple Grove)

DEMOCRATS VOTING YES

Atkins (Inver Grove Heights); Dill (Crane Lake); Dorn (Mankato); Entenza (St. Paul); Fritz (Faribault); Haws (St. Cloud); Hilstrom (Brooklyn Center); Hortman (Brooklyn Park); Hosch (St. Joseph); Johnson, R. (St. Peter); Juhnke (Willmar); Kelliher (Minneapolis); Koenen (Clara City); Larson (Bloomington); Latz (St. Louis Park); Lesch (St. Paul); Lieder (Crookston); Lillie (North St. Paul); Mahoney (St. Paul); Marquart (Dilworth); Moe (Bemidji); Nelson, M. (Brooklyn Park); Pelowski (Winona); Peterson, A. (Madison); Poppe (Austin); Rukavina (Virginia); Scalze (Little Canada); Sertich (Chisholm); Sieben (Newport); Simon (St. Louis Park); Slawik (Maplewood); Solberg (Grand Rapids); Thao (St. Paul); Thissen (Minneapolis)

DEMOCRATS VOTING NO

Bernardy (Fridley); Carlson (Crystal); Clark (Minneapolis); Davnie (Minneapolis); Eken (Twin Valley); Ellison (Minneapolis); Goodwin (Columbia Heights); Greiling (Roseville); Hansen (South St. Paul); Hausman (St. Paul); Hilty (Finlayson); Hornstein (Minneapolis); Huntley (Duluth); Jaros (Duluth); Johnson, S. (St. Paul); Kahn (Minneapolis); Lenczewski (Bloomington); Liebling (Rochester); Loeffler (Minneapolis); Mariani (St. Paul); Mullery (Minneapolis); Murphy (Hermantown); Otremba (Long Prairie); Paymar (St. Paul); Peterson, S. (New Hope); Ruud (Minnetonka); Sailer (Park Rapids); Wagenius (Minneapolis); Walker (Minneapolis); Welti (Plainview)

DEMOCRATS NOT VOTING

Anderson, I. (International Falls); Dittrich (Champlin)

Senate roll call on Twins stadium bill
Associated Press

Votes Sunday as the Senate, on a 34-32 vote, gave final approval to a Twins stadium financing plan. Voting yes were 12 Republicans and 22 Democrats. Voting no were 16 Republicans and 16 Democrats.

REPUBLICANS VOTING YES

Day (Owatonna); Dille (Dassel); Fischbach (Paynesville); Frederickson (New Ulm); Kierlin (Winona); Koering (Fort Ripley); Larson (Fergus Falls); McGinn (Eagan); Neuville (Northfield); Rosen (Fairmont); Ruud (Breezy Point); Senjem (Rochester)

REPUBLICANS VOTING NO

Bachmann (Stillwater); Belanger (Bloomington); Gerlach (Apple Valley); Hann (Eden Prairie); Johnson, Debbie (Ham Lake); Jungbauer (East Bethel); Koch (Buffalo); LeClair (Woodbury); Limmer (Maple Grove); Michel (Edina); Nienow (Cambridge); Olson (Minnetrista); Ortman (Chanhassen); Reiter (Shoreview); Robling (Jordan); Wergin (Princeton)

REPUBLICANS NOT VOTING

Pariseau (Farmington)

DEMOCRATS VOTING YES

Bonoff (Minnetonka); Clark (St. Cloud); Foley (Coon Rapids); Higgins (Minneapolis); Hottinger (St. Peter); Johnson, Dean (Willmar); Kelley (Hopkins); Kiscaden (Rochester); Kubly (Granite Falls); Langseth (Glyndon); Marko (Cottage Grove); Metzen (South St. Paul); Murphy (Red Wing); Saxhaug (Grand Rapids); Scheid (Brooklyn Park); Skoe (Clearbrook); Skoglund (Minneapolis); Sparks (Austin); Stumpf (Plummer); Tomassoni (Chisholm); Vickerman (Tracy); Wiger (North St. Paul)

DEMOCRATS VOTING NO

Anderson (St. Paul); Bakk (Cook); Berglin (Minneapolis); Betzold (Fridley); Chaudhary (Fridley); Cohen (St. Paul); Dibble (Minneapolis); Lourey (Kerrick); Marty (Roseville); Moua (St. Paul); Pappas (St. Paul); Pogemiller (Minneapolis); Ranum (Minneapolis); Rest (New Hope); Sams (Staples); Solon (Duluth)


Source: Pioneer Press

Posted by: Transic at May 22, 2006 1:41 AM

Thanks for your contributions Shane. This site is great. I can't believe this is finally happening.

Under blue skies and on green grass is where we’ll be watching the Twins in 2010!!!!

The feel of the breeze, a sun drenched July afternoon with sweaty & rowdy fans in the bleachers, the roar of the crowd echoing throughout the warehouse district, a HR launched into the dark night sky with the Minneapolis skyline as it’s backdrop, FRESH air, wearing a hooded sweatshirt on a crisp spring or fall night….watching as Francisco Liriano has to blow into his left hand before delivering a 97mph fastball past an aging Derek Jeter to put the Twins into the World Series!

Posted by: Adam at May 22, 2006 8:28 AM

Hey Shane, you rock for keeping us all updated on the stadium. And, I'd like to thank Steve Kelley and Mike Opat too. This is good for downtown Mpls. How about a rousing rendition of "Tonight We're Going to Party Like it's 2010"?

Posted by: mpls1934 at May 22, 2006 8:50 AM

What a great day for baseball fans all across the Upper Midwest! I can't wait to watch a Twins game without the constant threat of contraction or the team moving. And props are definitely in order for Blogmaster Shane, who definitely played a vital role in all of this.

Skol Shane!
Skol Twins!

Curt in Grand Forks

Posted by: Curt Hanson at May 22, 2006 9:18 AM

It was said in the final days of te effort that the Twins brought forth busloads of lobbyists who fooled legislators into believing that the people wanred this to happen. Shameful, really, to acucuse ones colleagues of being so gulible. The truth is there is deep support across the State for our hometown team and the idea of a marvolous outdoor gathering place to see them play. The Greet Machine itself is evidence to one persons passion and the overwelming support of a sophisticated fan base.
I would urge that the aforementioned base stay focused. Our work is not done. The majority on the Hennepin County Board is fragile. There will be raucous public hearings where the nattering nabobs will no doubt come out in force (why not, it would seem they have no other life...)You fans will need to lend your voices to the support of the fina vote for the sales tax. Additionally there will be a push to defeat three of our champions, McLaughlin, Stenglein and Opat for reelection. Even though the hard votes will have been cast if the majority should be controled by the opponents going forward there is no telling what hell all of us will be in sore for. Stay vigillent! Stay active. Onward!

Posted by: Mark Oyaas at May 22, 2006 10:27 AM

shane;;thank you..you and others have helped us
live a lifelong dream outdoor baseball again where it belongs in minnesota.....now,if we can
get the ballclub going!!!!!!

GOD BLESS SAM

Posted by: sam morriss at May 22, 2006 12:37 PM

You must all be proud of corporate welfare for a billionaire owner. So proponents of welfare for Pohlad are moved by "threats" to sell the team? That doesn't say much about you, does it.

Don't bitch about inclement weather once you get your asses in the seats of the new stadium now.

Posted by: David Drake at May 22, 2006 2:31 PM

So you say we're getting a new ballpark huh? Can't wait until 2010. Only about 1508 days away if the season opener is April 5, 2010. Yes, I actually counted.

Although not very well. As of today, May 22, 2006, it is 1414 days until April 5, 2010.

Posted by: SBG at May 22, 2006 3:21 PM

Mark Oyaas is right on. Actually the work is just beginning. There will be County public hearings on the ballpark, a final County Vote. There will be architects to hire, ballpark designs to approve, etc. etc. I hope Greet Machine continues to be the blog of record all the way until the happy happy day sometime in April of 2010.

Posted by: freealonzo at May 22, 2006 3:40 PM

Freeloaders.

The Twins could have built their own stadium. We should not be subsidizing this or any business in Minnesota.

I guarantee this is not the end. In 10-20 years they'll need another 1/4 billion or more for renovations or this stadium is no longer adequate and if they don't get what they want...

Posted by: Marty at May 22, 2006 4:48 PM

I wonder if Marty is Sen. John Marty? Sure sounds like it. Anyway, the team and Hennepin county are not stupid, they will both be contributing to a capital improvements fund every year to fund the necessary upgrades when the stadium is older!

Posted by: David Howe at May 22, 2006 5:43 PM

Although not very well. As of today, May 22, 2006, it is 1414 days until April 5, 2010.


Doh! My mistake. Thanks for correcting it SBG.

Posted by: ML at May 22, 2006 7:21 PM

I'm a little late to the party, but congrats again Shane.

I too would like to see confirmation of this automobile exemption to the sales tax increase. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I've never heard any mention of it outside of this blog. And I've never purchased a car so I don't know if taxes are assessed differently on them or something obvious either...

Also, I will second the motion to please call or write to the Twins, the county commissioners, and basically anybody connected with this stadium and urge them to consider the "average fan" in the design and construction of this park. Especially to include more quality, affordable seating than most recent ML ballparks have done. Unfortunately it appears that the Twins have total control over the design, so public input is likely futile, and the HOK architectural plans posted at the official web site don't look good for us (i.e. much higher upper deck, further from the field), but I really do love the Twins, and I and many other fans don't want to be shut out in 2010.

Posted by: spycake at May 22, 2006 9:58 PM

W00t! Nice work Shane. Now you can devote your effort to your real passion, a blog composed entirely of posts about rabbits.

Posted by: Tim at May 22, 2006 11:21 PM

Don't count on the fans being taken into account in the design. The design will be to maximize profit for the owners. Pohlad is laughing all the way to the bank.

Posted by: Eva Young at May 23, 2006 12:07 AM

Mark Stenglein is toast. He has a strong respected opponent in Greg Gray. Gray is a proven vote getter.

Posted by: Eva Young at May 23, 2006 12:10 AM

What a great day for all the baseball fans.I can't wait to watch a Twins game. And props are definitely in order for Blogmaster Shane, who definitely played a important role in all of this.

Posted by: Anna at May 23, 2006 5:44 AM

Eva, Greg Gray is a proven vote getter in North Minneapolis which comprises about 12 percent of the 2nd District (also the area with the lowest voter turnout). I like Greg Gray, but I have a feeling that Mark Stenglein ain't exactly trembling in his boots over this upcoming election.

Posted by: freealonzo at May 23, 2006 9:36 AM

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