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August 09, 2007
This is so wrong
This picture is wrong on so many levels. As if KG being traded wasn't bad enough, now we get the punch in the gut of seeing KG in a Red Sox uniform. It is almost too much to bear. For years I've had to put up with people slobbering over themselves trying to explain that the Red Sox are the antithesis to the Yankees when in reality they are just the bratty little brother of the Bronx Bombers. And whinier and more annoying. Man I hate the Red Sox.
Unfortunately, it doesn't end there. Do you realize the Minneapolis area is still seemingly the perpetual farm club for Boston sports teams? David Ortiz, Laurence Maroney, Randy Moss, Phil Kessel ... heck even Jason Varitek was drafted by the Twins. And now KG. How much do I hate Boston? Let me count the ways.
And they have the most annoying sports columnist, too. Of course, I am talking about Bill Simmons, aka the "Boston Sports Guy," who through the years has never missed an opportunity to blather on about his precious Red Sox, Celtics, Patriots, and Bruins. I love Simmons' writings on popular culture. His musings on Hoosiers are hilarious. But his views on sports are so skewed towards a certain city in Massachusetts it is sickening.
I'll never forgive him for supporting the contraction of the Twins, and suggesting that the Twins and Expos could be combined to make a team in Las Vegas. As long as his Boston Red Sox are OK, what does he care? His derision overall for Minnesota sports teams is well documented, and now he gets to cheer for all our former best players? Including KG? You all know what Simmons has called KG over the years? The 'Greatest Second Banana of All Time.' Nice. In fact, during the Wolves-Kings series a few years back Simmons had a lot of nice things to say about KG:
Still, I'm going with the Kings. I just think the Wolves have too much pressure on them. Hope I'm wrong -- I like KG. Even if he let down his boys in Chicago for life by taking two steps back from AP.
You remember when Anthony Peeler took a swing at KG? First of all KG is from South Carolina, you moron, and more importantly what exactly would you have had KG do? Most people praised KG for holding back to make sure he would play in game 7, but would you have him risk all of that to protect his "street cred?" Of course you would:
"All he needed to do was either A) give him the old two-handed shove, or B) grab him by the neck like MJ did to Reggie Miller that time. Neither of those things would have gotten him kicked out of Game 7. But by taking two steps back and standing there he basically backed down. And your best player can't back down."
This guy gets to cheer for KG? And we have to put up with Simmons giving KG and McHale a virtual thigh massage? After all the negativity Simmons has thrown towards KG it is just wrong! Man I hate Boston.
Posted by snackeru at August 9, 2007 06:20 AM
Comments
As sad as I am about KG being traded, I'm not going to hate Boston for it. I will quietly hope that KG can have success as a Celtic, if for no other reason than to rub Kevin McHale's nose in it. Laurence Maroney was drafted by the Patriots. I respect them for being smart enough to do so.
As for David Ortiz, while I don't hate the Red Sox for signing him, I am getting pretty tired of Big Papi taking shots at his former team at every opportunity. The Twins let him go because he was injury-prone and unproductive during his tenure with them. There was nothing more to it than that. Ortiz should man up and admit that he was fortunate to get a second chance in Boston and be grateful for it.
And Bill Simmons can be annoying, but he's a lot more entertaining than Sid or Shooter any day.
Posted by: Snyder at August 9, 2007 09:49 AM
As sad as I am to see KG get traded, I'm not going to hate Boston for it. I will quietly root for his success as a Celtic if only to be able to rub McHale and Taylor's noses in it. Since Laurence Maroney was drafted by the Patriots, I'm just going to respect them for being smart enough to recognize his special talent and hope he stays healthy enough to fully realize it.
As for David Ortiz, I won't hate the Red Sox for signing him, but I am getting tired of Big Papi taking shots at his former team all the time. Ortiz's tenure with the Twins was unproductive and injury-prone. Instead of hating on the Twins, he should man up and admit that he was fortunate to get a second chance with the Red Sox and be grateful for it.
Posted by: Snyder at August 9, 2007 09:58 AM
I have to agree with the Boston bashing. But in general for me, it's northeast bashing. Which, by extension is really only ESPN bashing.
ESPN has in so many ways ruined sports. While I appreciate 24-hour sports channels and live coverage of mid-major basketball tourneys (as someone who went to a mid-major, i mean that) but what I cannot stomach is their abject regionalism.
Honest to God, I'm so tired of hearing about every single thing the Red Sox, Yankees, Patriots, Knicks and Celtics do. If there was any balance at all to their coverage, nobody would have cared about the yankees being another sub .500 team for the first half. Even when the fricken Patriots lose, you hear more about that than the teams that WON!
My real ire is generated however not by their freakish obsession with all things northeast, but with their completely ignoring anything that isnt on the coasts (and hell, they make sure the west coast knows their second rate). The classic example of this is on their 30 minute baseball highlight show, Central divison highlights (except for the Cubs of course) are buried at the end, or in some cases not shown at all.
Of course, their decision to issue an edict declaring that all staff shall deride the NHL, and it coinsiding with the end of their NHL contract (no connection of course) is also just vile. Or their insistance that Arena Football is really something interesting (right after they bought a stake in the league)
I have to say, I don't get why people love Simmons either. The guy is a windbag... vapid and shallow, but equally dumb as a bag of marbles about most sports. The guy should be sitting in a dank-pit watering hole in Boston with Sully and Murph and talking about the Sawks while destroying their livers, but since he writes about ESPN's favorite topic (boston sports) he gets a fat deal.
Now if only there were a decent rival to ESPN... nobody seems destined to step up to them on this, which is a shame
Posted by: CJ at August 9, 2007 10:43 AM
Agreed, Simmons is played out, the Red Sox are annoying, and too many Minnesota stars end up in Boston. But, personally, since the 2003-2004 season, I have become entirely a KG fan and not at all a Timberwolves fan. So I will continue cheering for him on the Celtics. I've got a soft spot for them anyway, as Bill Russell is probably my favorite old-school player. I don't feel like I will be violating any of Simmons' vaunted fan fidelity rules, seeing as my favorite NBA team as a kid is gone (click my name for the link).
Posted by: chapman at August 9, 2007 11:03 AM
I feel slightly compelled to defend Simmons. I see him as ESPN's version of SI's Rick Reilly. He's more of a sports-as-entertainment columnist than a sports journalist like Peter Gammons. People read him because he's funny.
If and when he stops being funny, ESPN will drop him, regardless of his Boston-centric columns.
Though I do agree that ESPN in general is too NE-centric. Their collective whining last year after Morneau won the AL MVP over Jeter was pretty pathetic.
Posted by: Snyder at August 9, 2007 11:41 AM
off-topic, but cool
New ballpark groundbreaking has been rescheduled for August 30th
Posted by: Snyder at August 9, 2007 12:45 PM
They call us "fly-over country" for a reason.
My main gripe with ESPN, and there are others, is their blatant choice to cheer against a Minnesota sports team in any situation. It doesn't matter the sport, the opponent, or anything else...the Minnesota team will only be winning because of something the other team is or isn't doing (not BY ANY MEANS, because of the talent or skill of the MN players). Also, they will always commentate like the other shoe is going to drop on the MN team. The game is never over for the opponents.
The only way they get around being called "biased" is by saying how much they respect and admire players like KG, Torii, Santana, etc (knowing full well, it's only a matter of time before they'll be able to cheer for them on one of "their" teams).
I will never forgive them for cheering openly for Michigan during that-game-which-must-not-be-named at the Dome. I didn't have to hear it firsthand because I got to witness the game in person, but my dad's reaction told me everything I needed to know. I hadn't heard him that frustrated after watching a game. He swore to never watch another MN team play on ESPN again...and I don't think he has since.
Posted by: Dave MN at August 9, 2007 01:36 PM
One thing the blogosphere has taught us is that ESPN needs competition. My business partners and I are currently working on starting a rival network in conjuction with Fox Sports and many high traffic sports blogs. We are listening to fans who are sick of ESPN and hope to deliver an alternative to the Entertainment Tonight of sports journalism.
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Posted by: Mike Thomas at August 9, 2007 09:39 PM
The company that I work for recently purchased another company that is based out of Groton, MA., which is about two hours from Boston. Now that I work with people from Massachusetts, it's funny to hear them refer to the Yankees as "The Evil Empire" and rip on the Yankees payroll. This, to me, is like Paris Hilton calling Nicole Ritchie a slut.
The thing that seperates Minnesota fans from Boston fans is that we can be self-depricating (well, we have to be). Boston fans can't anymore. They've bought into the "we're the best" mentality, which is a turn off. Personally, I think the Red Sox lost their "aura" when they won the World Series.
Oh, and don't forget, Manny Fernandez will be the Boston Bruins goalie this year. Hopefully he'll go "all moody" on them.
Jeff T.
Posted by: Jeff T. at August 9, 2007 09:55 PM
Ok... everyone.... breath...
Wow... yes, ESPN devotes more time to the east coast teams. That is where a higher percentage of their viewers live. It bugs me too, but honestly, when above mentioned "competitor" starts up their network, they will kneel to the ratings gods as well.
ESPN "openly" cheering against Minnesota teams... you are kidding right?? I think your father and many other Minnesota's need to realize that it was the BIGGEST choke in the history of college athletics. I was rooting for the Gophers and was disgusted in the way we handed that game back to Michigan. Everyone loves the big comeback, and I am sure the announcers got wrapped up in that. I watched that game, and do not remember any "cheering" against the U of M.
We Minnesotans do suffer from "little guy syndrome" and tend to think we are always getting the shaft. I think we get as much coverage as we deserve. The T-Wolves are a joke, and have been a joke for years. The Vikings always... and I mean always... underperform/underdeliver. The Twins actually get ok coverage and are well respected by the Peter Gammon's of the world, but do things like sign, Batista and Ponson. The U of M athletics program is solid in sports not covered nationally (hockey, golf, wrestling, etc) and are a joke in the TV sports (basketball, football).
So, generally speaking, we get what we deserve. If you want respect... go out there and earn it.
Posted by: zooomx at August 10, 2007 07:56 AM
While ESPN is clearly slanted towards the East coast, some of you Minnesotans need to get over it. You clearly have a little brother syndrome about many things. I doubt ESPN was cheering for Michigan to beat Minnesota, it probably just seemed that way because yet again it was a case of Minnesota not being able to win a big game. I had to laugh when you said your dad would never watch another Minnesota game on ESPN. That's probably pretty easy to do since they aren't on there very often :-)
I'd like to go into a rant about how I can't stand how every story up here has to have some mention of how it ties to Minnesota, but I'd probably be stoned. Some guy could invent the cure to cancer, and if he happened to live in Minneapolis for two weeks back in 1981, you can bet that the story would somehow state "former Minnesota native" or something to that effect.
Posted by: Aaron at August 10, 2007 08:34 AM
Just to argue a point...
ESPN is no longer a Northeastern U.S. sports network. They can't claim that anymore, despite their Connecticut mothership. They are a part of basic cable packages all over the country. Their unwillingness to adapt their programming/coverage approach to their larger audience (some of which ACTUALLY live between the coasts) is totally mindblowing.
And zoomx, you're right my dad hasn't had to watch many local games on ESPN, because they don't cover them. I'm not going to say that many Minnesota teams have been worthy of coverage recently.
However, that Michigan game was disgusting not only because it was one of the biggest collapses in college football history, but because ESPN *wanted* the favorite to win the game. Wouldn't you think they'd be excited that the Gophers were actually beating the crap out of one of the top teams in the country? I would... Michigan can't all of a sudden become an underdog during a game. I guess my idea of "openly cheering" against MN teams is how nothing that seems to happen in a game is due to anything that the MN team does. Either the opponent wins it or the opponent loses it. It drives me crazy when announcers won't give credit to one of the teams.
Posted by: Dave MN at August 10, 2007 10:07 AM
Of course ESPN WANTED Michigan to comeback!
BFD...
If it's a 35-0 blowout (or whatever it was at the beginning of the second half), they lose MILLIONS of the most rabid football viewers across the country. Which, if you fail to understand the basic business of television, leads to higher ratings, and subsequently ad revenue.
If Michigan comes back, said viewers (+ millions of more channel surfers) tune into the end of the game, and watch several more commercials.
Duh!
Posted by: tato at August 10, 2007 02:19 PM
I hope there are plenty of protestors at the Twins Stadium ground breaking holding banners saying NO TO STADIUMS! YES TO BRIDGES!
I hope any and every politicians stupid enough to show up for this groundbreaking stunt gets cornered and asked tough questions about why they support stadiums for billionaires on the backs of residents that never approved it.
Sounds to me like some of the "baseball" fans here need to grow up and learn priorities in life and baseball stadiums are NOT a priority in any book.
It will be interesting to see how the Hennepin County Commissioners DODGE this groundbreaking. I hear they are getting TONS of heat from the electorate.
Posted by: mitch at August 10, 2007 06:34 PM
Well, Garnett did back down from AP. It was a pathetic display. He has to be one of the most overrated players in NBA history. It's also funny how he always picks some unknown rookie when he wants to talk smack. How many times over the years has he pumped an unknown up so much with his excessive blathering that the guy has a career game against the Wolves?
A straight up trade of Garnett for Jefferson would have been a good trade for the Wolves. KG is a Pippen. He's not anything close to being a Jordan. He is not a leader. He doesn't want the ball in crunch time. Yet he demanded another $20 million a year to stay with the Wolves, knowing full well that his excessive salaries over the years have been the main reason that it was so difficult to put a better cast around him. I'm convinced winning really isn't that important to him, despite what he may say.
Posted by: Rocky Balboa at August 10, 2007 08:08 PM
That's right Mitch...They received so much heat they were re-elected after the bill was signed into law. Don't bet on any protesters - the majority of people don't live in your black and white world.
Posted by: kevin in az at August 10, 2007 09:29 PM
I hope there are plenty of protestors at the Twins Stadium ground breaking holding banners saying NO TO STADIUMS! YES TO BRIDGES!
I hope any and every politicians stupid enough to show up for this groundbreaking stunt gets cornered and asked tough questions about why they support stadiums for billionaires on the backs of residents that never approved it.
Sounds to me like some of the "baseball" fans here need to grow up and learn priorities in life and baseball stadiums are NOT a priority in any book.
It will be interesting to see how the Hennepin County Commissioners DODGE this groundbreaking. I hear they are getting TONS of heat from the electorate.
Posted by: mitch at August 10, 2007 09:43 PM
Yes, Mitch, and I hope my boy's super-soakers can reach the protesters and their bogus signs!
Most of these frauds will be the first in line for seats at the new stadium.
Lighten up man.
Jeff T.
Posted by: Jeff T. at August 10, 2007 10:36 PM
At what point do the anti-ballpark zealots just shut up already? Will it be the groundbreaking? Opening day 2010? The day Joe Mauer is traded to the Red Sox for a 52 year old Curt (I'm a Republican too) Schilling? The day Mike Opat retires from public service or perhaps when John Marty's head explodes because Nick Coleman is writing an article about those plucky small market Twins in their quaint ballpark after they defeat the Yankees in the playoffs? Just let me know so that I can start marking the days on my calendar because your stale taunts, mindless acquisitions, and flaccid arguements are making me run out of synonoms for the word lame.
Posted by: Freealonzo at August 10, 2007 11:46 PM
Baseball bin barry barry good t'me!
That's what "pro" baseball stadium arguments sound like to everybody with a brain.
My question is; what's the next "straw on the camels back" you pro stadiums zealots will support in order to further prove the downfall of our civilization? I know, let's raise a sales tax to get A-Rod! cause da winning be good fer da 'conomy too
Posted by: TBD at August 11, 2007 10:49 AM
An open letter to Opat;
Dear Mr. Opat,
I’m sorry to bother you. I know the business of running a county must be very demanding. I must say I’m envious of people in positions that are assured of their ongoing employment because, everybody knows, most people don’t pay much attention to local politics and “once elected� it’s rare that the job doesn’t become a life time appointment.
I don’t know where to turn. You see, I lost my job at the beginning of the year. I’m in (or was in) the construction industry. I’m a framer/laborer for a local framing company that shut its doors due to the housing slow down and I haven’t been able to find replacement work. My unemployment benefits running out, not that it matters much because 60% of what I was earning doesn’t really provide for much. My house reset a couple of months ago and I’m now paying $150.00 more per month. My property taxes went up an astonishing 22% this year, which kind of shocked me in light of everything I’ve read and heard regarding the housing market, but regardless, that added another $55 dollars to my monthly payment. Of course I don’t have to tell you about gas costs and my 3 growing kids are eating me out of house and home. Did you know that we’re paying another $50 dollars more per month just on food this year?!
My point is; trying to live off of 60% of my previous income, while hunting for job at 40 years old with no college; already trying NOT to lose the house and paying more than $250 additional each month just on necessities, I received a school supply list in the mail this week telling me what I need to equip my kids with before school starts and I just don’t know where the money is going to come from. I was wondering, since its no big deal and hardly noticeable and all. Can I have my $40 bucks the sales tax has cost me this year, back? I don’t see where I’ll be heading to any Twins game soon. Thanks.
Regards,
Your neighbor.
Posted by: HCres at August 11, 2007 11:10 AM
HCres,
You have to do whatever you have to do to provide for your family. If it means taking a lesser job and working 60-70 hours per week, that's what you have to do. You need to budget every penny you make. Do you have a vehicle payment? If you do, sell it. Drive a beater. Do you have a credit card? If you do, cut it up. Work two jobs and pay it off. That will allow you to keep all the money you make for yourself. Nobody else is holding you down. You are holding yourself down. Things will not turn around for you until you realize this.
I get the feeling you're all too content to continue collecting your unemployment and whining about how bad you have it. When you got into construction, did it ever occur to you to have a plan "B" if the construction industry took a downturn?
When you chose to pound nails rather than go to college, you had to realize you were taking a risk. Educated people have options when they lose their job. You have noone to blame but yourself for the situation you're in. Don't blame it on a publicly funded stadium that will be a source of community pride for years to come.
Posted by: Rocky Balboa at August 11, 2007 05:58 PM
Those trying to connect the bridge collapse in any way to the Twins stadium are ridiculous. This collapse was a tragic accident. In hindsight could it have been prevented? Yes. Will we now have to fund greater inspection and repairs on bridges across nation? Yes. But as has been pointed out, there are thousands of other bridges in this country that had the same safety 'rating' as this bridge, and no one rushed to repair any of them either. No one really thought something like this could happen, and if they had they would have done whatever they could to prevent it. To suggest otherwise is insulting to all involved. It so happened that we all learned something about this countries aging highway infrustructure, and the lesson happened to occur in Minnesota.
It is similarly ridiculous to suggest we should no longer fund any activites related to athletics or arts because this occured. Do you need more transportation funding? Sure. It may move things like a Vikings stadium down on the list of priorities, and it should. But it does not remove it or similar needs from the list altogher. It's not all or nothing. We cannot allow a tragedy like this to allow us to become scared, conservative people who only spend money on the bare necessities of life.
Posted by: David H at August 11, 2007 07:54 PM
Hey Rocky!
-Can you eat "community pride?"
-College isn't for every one. I'd bet his 60% income is better than alot of degreed salaries today!
-I didn't read anywhere where the writer was blaming anyone or holding themselves back. It looks like a simple disortation of increased costs and a request to get his/her sales tax money back in an effort to help make ends meet.
The next time Opat looks to take money out of peoples pockets to fund ridiculous "community pride" projects, maybe he'll think twice, if he ever thought at all.
Posted by: DD at August 11, 2007 10:12 PM
Professional sports fans are all jerks anyway. We all know it; they all know it.
Posted by: mabye at August 11, 2007 10:47 PM
TSP Cut By 75% In Earlier FISA Ruling
Now we know why the Democrats caved on the FISA adjustment earlier this month that allowed the warrantless surveillance to proceed at the NSA on international communications. The same reporters that blew the program's cover in December 2005 now report that a FISA decision earlier this year forced the NSA to get warrants on purely international calls that happened to pass through American telephony switches. That reduced surveilled traffic by 75%, which forced Congress to act:
The prelude to approval of the plan occurred in January, when the administration agreed to put the wiretapping program under the oversight of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The court is charged with guarding against governmental spying abuses. Officials say one judge issued a ruling in January that allowed the administration to continue the program under the court’s supervision.
A ruling a month or two later — the judge who made it and its exact timing are not clear — restricted the government’s ability to intercept foreign-to-foreign communications passing through telecommunication “switches� on American soil.
The security agency was newly required to seek warrants to monitor at least some of those phone calls and e-mail messages. As a result, the ability to intercept foreign-based communications “kept getting ratcheted down,� said a senior intelligence official who insisted on anonymity because the account involved classified material. “ We were to a point where we were not effectively operating.�
Mr. McConnell, lead negotiator for the administration in lobbying for the bill, said in an interview that the court’s restrictions had made his job much more difficult.
“It was crazy, because I’m sitting here signing out warrants on known Al Qaeda operatives that are killing Americans, doing foreign communications,� he said. “And the only reason I’m signing that warrant is because it touches the U.S. communications infrastructure. That’s what we fixed.�
The FISA court ruling relied on the legislation created thirty years ago, when no purely international calls went through American switches. That started changing after the breakup of ATT and the globalization of the telecommunications industry. Now calls that start in one foreign country and end in another get routinely routed through switching equipment located in the US, even though those calls were never meant to be protected under the original FISA legislation.
Needless to say, those would provide the easiest intercepts for the NSA, and potentially the most valuable. Since Congress had never updated FISA to cover the changing role of American switching equipment, the law forbade the NSA from surveilling it without a wiretap -- even though no US terminus existing on the communication. The judge ruled correctly on the letter of the law, which conservatives might wryly note is an example of judicial restraint and modesty championed by the Right on other issues.
Congress had a duty to act to rectify this problem. Yet, according to James Risen and Eric Lichtblau, they stalled, even after being told of an increasing intelligence gap. Even as late as early July, when the DNI started getting very specific about the gap, Democrats wanted to put off any work on FISA until mid-September. Only after the White House went public with its concerns and demanding some sort of action on the bill did Democrats finally and resentfully agree to get it done before the August recess.
And immediately after that, Democrats accused the White House of "playing the fear card," an asinine allegation. Democrats have castigated this administration of deceiving them and bullying them in order to get themselves off the hook with their base, but in the end, these complaints amount to an admission that Democratic leadership is populated with fools and wimps who can't stand up for their beliefs, whatever they profess their beliefs to be.
It took four months for this Congress to act to fix a deepening intelligence gap that everyone saw developing. If they had addressed it immediately, they could have set the tone for the debate and passed FISA legislation they liked better. Instead, they dithered with it like they dithered with the Iraq war funding appropriation, and got stuck in a position with no power to negotiate. If anything confirms the vapidity of Democratic leadership, this session and these two specific narratives reveal it completely.
Posted by: mac at August 11, 2007 10:49 PM
Deficit Drops, Revenues Up, Just In Time For Congress To Blow It
This probably won't get much attention in the media today, but new budget numbers show that George Bush's sunny deficit predictions were off the mark. It turns out that revenues are better and the deficit is smaller than predicted, and will likely balance much more quickly. That is, it would have until the Democrats decided to reverse the tax cuts that fueled the increased revenues:
The federal deficit so far this budget year is running sharply lower, driven by record revenues pouring into government coffers.
The Treasury Department reported on Friday that the government produced a deficit of $157.3 billion for the budget year that began last Oct. 1. That's a substantial improvement from the red ink figure of $239.6 billion produced for the corresponding 10-month period last year. ...
The White House predicts that the deficit this year drop to $205 billion.
But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicts the government will produce even less red ink this year. It recently said the deficit will be "toward the lower end" of a $150 billion to $200 billion range.
The deficit would be even smaller than that, and it should be, given the record $2.12 trillion in tax revenues collected this year. However, we also set a record for spending, at $2.27 trillion. Thanks to the new Congress, we'll be spending even more next year, even adjusted for inflation -- and if the Democrats capture the White House, it may go even higher.
Revenues continue to rise dramatically -- and ahead of expectations -- because of the tax cuts that have fueled steady growth for four years. As the economy grows, so does revenue to the federal government. It comes from better income tax revenues as more jobs get created, federal excise taxes, corporate taxes, capital gains, and any number of other sources. The tax increases on which the Democrats based their budget projections will take capital out of the markets and cost jobs -- and the revenue will fall off, creating bigger deficits to go with their increased spending.
So where does the Washington Post place this great economic news? On the front page? Perhaps just a link on their main web page? Nope. If you didn't catch the RSS feed from their national news, you won't find this article easily on the Post's site, at least not at 10:50 am CT. You won't find it on the New York Times' front page, either, nor on the Chicago Tribune's main web page, either.
Gee ... wasn't the ballooning deficit a major issue in the last couple of elections?
Posted by: mac at August 11, 2007 10:49 PM
Hey Mac, just shows what happens when we elect a Democratic congress. Now if only the trillion dollar Iraq war was on the books too so we could get a real look at our federal budget.
Posted by: freealonzo at August 11, 2007 11:12 PM
"Hey Mac, just shows what happens when we elect a Democratic congress. Now if only the trillion dollar Iraq war was on the books too so we could get a real look at our federal budget."
Only the biggest idiots and people with their hands out vote Democrat. The only reason Democrats ever win any race in the entire nation is because they have to pander to the 3 percenters for 90% of their votes. Without that; they would NEVER WIN A SINGLE ELECTION.
Posted by: maybeth at August 12, 2007 09:27 PM
Shane,
Throw up a post about what animal is better, giraffes or chickens would you please?
Posted by: Cheesehead Craig at August 13, 2007 07:47 AM
wow. Shane, You really attract the crazies to this site...
Posted by: Drake33 at August 13, 2007 01:50 PM
Yes, yes I do. I must say, though, that there are really maybe 2-3 (4 tops) crazy anti-stadium whack-jobs out there, and that the bulk of these negative comments are written by STM. STM likes to change his name on all these comments so it looks like the site is being overrun by the enlightened masses. That is simply not the case.
Again, there are probably 2-3 real life stadium opponents that write on this site. And one of them is comprised of STM's many different personalities. I'll probably write more about this later, but for now I'll leave it at that.
Posted by: Shane at August 13, 2007 02:06 PM
Maybeth's intelligent and insightful analysis speaks volumes about Republicans.
Posted by: gopher88 at August 14, 2007 11:57 AM
