The topic was variants of idealism. Most often thsese ideas are based on overcoming the sovereign state, modern idealists view the state as an anachronism. By the mentality that one day we wll work together toward better solutions, the historical progress of humanity. And what is the ultimate goal of the idealist, order vs. justice, or collective security? There are different ways to overcome the sovereign state such as: incrementalism, taking achievements step by step, integration, tying to create bigger and better solutions trying to voercome territorialty, revolutionish, rapid jumps or development in linearity, and emancipation, the inclusion of new types of groups or thinking, i.e. gender inclusion (Lady Astor). Emancipation involves creating new actors in recognizing new minorties. The example was made that the EU represented the incremenation point of view, because they are added new states in stages, and the question is whether they are being added too fast and upsetting the balance of order.