From the ghetto of exploitation to the ghetto of abandonment?
Which breaks and continuities within the urban African American experience can be gleaned from comparing the DuBois and Wilson articles?
Which breaks and continuities within the urban African American experience can be gleaned from comparing the DuBois and Wilson articles?
March 25, 2007
OBE # 5 Du Bois and WJ Wilson
WJ Wilson and W.E.B. Du Bois differ greatly on their views of urban ghettos and the reasons behind their formation.
When Du Bois wrote his article in 1899 the major problems confronting blacks were the Jim Crow laws. In Du Bois’ observations he saw “work available for able-bodied laborers, no evidence of drug use, substantial homeownership, middle- and upper income crafts people, businessmen, and professionals to serve the community and act as role models, and little black-on-black crime.” This is a marked contrast to the ghettos found in Wilson’s article where the exact opposite was true. In Du Bois’ ghetto the black men were seen as inferior so they had trouble getting jobs or moving upward socially. Local laws made it difficult for the freedoms promised to all men to pertain to blacks. Wilson’s ghetto has a race aspect but not to the same degree as Du Bois. Wilson argues that because the blacks that are successful leave the ghettos there is no way for the ghettos themselves to become better. Essentially, the would-be leaders of the ghetto leave to escape the destitute qualities that the ghetto provides.
In Du Bois time, the people in power did their best to convince blacks that they weren’t good enough achieve the same jobs and wages as whites. In Wilson’s time, those lessons have been passed down through generations of poverty and the hopelessness has lead to violence and an even more stark contrast between ghettos and non-ghettos(racially or otherwise).
Wilson’s main argument that contradicts the Du Bois argument of racism is the economy. Wilson believes that the US economy is the main source of the trouble for urban ghettos. The lack of jobs in the ghettos leads to the drug dependence and crime that degenerate a community. In Du Bois’ time, an able bodied black man could find a job, albeit a hard and segregated one. By the time Wilson wrote his work urban jobs had “largely disappeared”. The lack of jobs for men led to less “marriageable” men. This means that men were not getting married and not living in a nuclear family as in Du Bois' time. Out of wedlock births lead to “welfare-dependent female-headed households”. This lack of self worth amongst blacks leads to disillusionment and that gets passed on through generations only magnifying the problem.
Du Bois sees race as the main problem preventing blacks from achieving the same accomplishments as whites but Wilson disagrees. “Less racial discrimination has made matters in the black ghetto worse.” Wilson believes this because as some blacks are able to leave the ghettos, these rich and successful blacks that could be a positive force in the ghettos, the conditions of the ghettos gets even worse.
Du Bois seeks the barriers to be lifted that separate whites and blacks. Wilson wants “… education, training and full employment policies” for all poor people. The belief that race isn’t as big of an issue in ghetto life is a controversial issue that is central to Wilson’s argument.
What I gather from this is that Wilson believes that to focus on race only reinforces its importance and hinders the upward mobility of blacks. Focusing on the economic factors alone assures fair treatment for all people who need it. It is a very progressive ideology that most people (including Du Bois) don’t share but I believe to be a just one.
Dorian Stanasel
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Sean McPherson
OBE 5
William Julius Wilson’s work serves as a great juxtaposition to Dubois’ work from a century earlier. Both works address the woes of an underprivileged black neighborhood that has suffered under municipal policies and discrimination from white people in power.
Something that held Dubois’ Philadelphia neighborhood together was the unavailability of “black flight” as an option for upwardly mobile blacks. Due to the era, living far from the urban center was not an option for any working people because of the great amount of time and expense associated with coming into the city from far out each day. Other neighborhoods in the Philadelphia area were hostile towards blacks moving in. The insular nature of the area creates a bit of a “biosphere” effect. Dubois’ black Philadelphia suffered from lots of discrimination but they did have class distinctions within the neighborhood and a combination of homeowners, business owners and slightly more transient characters that helped the neighborhood self-police due to a care and concern for the neighborhood.
Wilson’s depiction of Chicago starts with memories of a more prosperous Southside during the 50s and 60s. At this point, although the neighborhood was segregated through the process of redlining and other real estate and municipal techniques the area had businesses and employment that helped the area prosper. One of Wilson’s quotes really captures some concepts of city planning: “’It’s not safe anymore because the streets aren’t.’” This summarizes that the modern South and Westside of Chicago are lacking the panoptic potential that Jane Jacobs sees in the Village and that Janet Abu-Lughod sees in Islamic cities. Without street activity and intermingling the streets become a danger-zone with only questionable characters congregating on them.
The middle-class abandonment of the Southside of Chicago has enabled the area to become ruled by gangs. In one of Wilson’s interviews, the effect of the gangs had become so pervasive that a mother chose to send her child away because the pressure of the gangs was so hard and violent that her son’s safety was in question.
Wilson aimed the potential towards a true economic upheaval that would empower the working class of all colors and eschewed the more focused attention at particular moments that affirmative action offers. The pervasive crime record in the Southside of Chicago is blamed on the lack of jobs for young people. Middle class people are apt to move to areas where there are jobs. The decline in jobs will precipitate a move by the employed to areas where they don’t have to fear for their safety. They are more apt to enjoy such an environment if they are in an area where the majority of residents are gainfully employed.
Wilson’s discourse also points out that “ghetto poverty” is contagious. In an area where 40% of the residents are poor it is hard for the area to attract business ventures that will bring in the capital to develop it financially and socially. This means that poor blacks become increasingly isolated and become increasingly poor. Dubois points out opportunities for upward mobility in turn of the century Philadelphia are limited but they are available. Because the black community of Philadelphia is insular as opposed to isolated, the community members are able to ascend to higher positions and these positions are available within the community.
Wilson’s analysis of how economic conditions and geographic realities intersect is very illuminating. Wilson’s advices are much less racially motivated than Dubois. Wilson feels that if the economic handicaps of the black community are addressed it will be possible for these neighborhoods to prosper.
Towards the end of the paper Wilson does analyze more of the social woes of the neighborhood, particularly the crack epidemic that was at its height during the writing of Wilson’s chapter. Again, Wilson addresses the contagious effects of people using and valuing handguns as a necessary precaution in the neighborhood.
Segregation, which functions as the constant between the two articles, is further provoked by social changes that effected employment and financial stability of neighborhoods. Wilson’s article illuminates most effectively how policies that effect the entire working class population have particularly exacerbated circumstances for African-American communities.
Posted by: Sean McPherson | March 26, 2007 07:37 PM
The racial discrimination among black people has indeed caused them to lower self esteem. They really need to increase their confidence and if possible, not live in what the society has set for them - being an inferior race.
Increasing their confidence would help them boost their self esteem and will not let any discriminations against them to hinder their success. Also, increasing confidence will let other races realize the black people's capabilities and worth.
Posted by: Increasing Confidence | July 13, 2007 05:06 PM
The fight against discrimination should start from the government itself. There are institutions or maybe companies that do not accept some persons due to race. These should be watched out by the government. The campaign against discrimination should be more extensive.
Discrimination affects a person in a negative way like it lowers his self-esteem. But instead of allowing this, they should even improve themselves, like improving their communication skills. By improving their communication skills, they can build more confidence and avoid getting lower self-esteem.
Posted by: Communication Skills | January 3, 2008 02:32 PM
March 26, 2007
OBE # 4 Willaim Julius Wilson, Cheers to You America
(This is a pre warning, I am going to be going off on a tangent about America and a lot of what it stands for. The so called “American Dream” happens only when you are sleeping.)
What is it about America that people think that you can start as a nobody and become someone famous, rich, and live an extravagant lifestyle? Is it the media, the government, or just our norms here in America? I am of the opinion that the dominated white media, government, and entertainment industry should foot the blame. Everyday we are bombarded with magazine, billboard, and TV images that create a false reality. We also have laws passed by severely over privileged white men that tell us how much we will have to pay on our income, or who can and cannot marry. It is the entertainment industry that progresses the want for beauty, fame, and money. Where else in the world do those who bring joy to others lives make more money than a significant number of its own population combined? This is the scary reality of America and it is not going to change anytime soon as we rear our children this way.
America is and will continue to be an individualistic society rather than a collective society as found in most Western European countries. It is constantly engrained in us as small children, be the best in your class, win the race, win the game, don’t let the bad kid bat in the bottom of the 9th when you are behind by one, and of course, when you do win do not be humble, gloat gloat gloat and make sure that everyone knows that you won. What about material things you might ask?
Buy more because credit is easy to come by in America. Buy as much as you would like, we will only charge you eight percent interest, that is until you miss a payment, then our friendly usury laws that were passed by our over privilidged white men will increase you interest to over twenty-eight percent. So go ahead, buy that new HD Flat Screen; in the end you might as well just buy four at once since you are going to buy that many anyways with your interest on your new credit card. We do not teach temperance in this society, so never become satisfied with what you have and always go looking for those new pair of shoes to fill the void in your life. And, those that do figure out the system?
Knowledge is power in America but what about wisdom? We do not value those who experience things first hand and know what a war can do; we must rely on our knowledge that invading a country will free people and bring about democracy. Ridicule people on national television, tell them how stupid they are, and move on. All of this is going on in a country that has not paid attention to its own problems.
William Julius Wilson was “critical of timid liberals who avoid confronting tough questions about race and poverty because they are afraid anything negative they say about blacks will appear racist. He argues that there is an urban underclass and that residents of poor Black ghettos today are socially isolated and caught in a tangle of pathology characterized by unemployment, crime, teenage pregnancy, out-of-wedlock births, welfare dependency, and drug use.”
The whole time I was reading this article I could not help but think of Hurricane Katrina when the colorblind Whites finally awoke and saw that there were still major racial disparities in our sweet old lady, the USA. Many of those whites thought, “how could this happen to those people?” Well, I will tell you. Demonize the Blacks on your local news as violent rapists and murderers, tell the media industry to keep on making shows that make the urban Black ghetto a fun and exciting place to live, and tell the government to stop giving money to these lazy people who don’t want a job anyway. One more thing, offer these children who come from the urban ghetto poor schooling, no after school programs, but make sure to teach them the word of God because s/he will save us all in the end.
In his reading we have the White flight phenomenon. In America, we like to be surrounded by people who look the same as us, talk the same, and drive the same cars as us. Wilson writes “in 1950, almost two-thirds of Woodlawn’s population was white; by 1960 the white population had declined to just ten percent.” Why is it that this white population was able to move so easily? Maybe there might have been something called redlining or simply the fact that America treated its urban underclass as subhuman, not granting them equal rights until 1963.
Here is to you William Julius Wilson! In all seriousness, we need to change the current state of the US. Everyone in this country should have access to healthcare, we need to value such things as temperance, wisdom, and the collective good. We should not just throw money at this issues, severe thought needs to go into the problems. The black urban dweller should not be swept under the rug. Provide jobs for him, do not make him compete for lower and lower wages, and please, offer his child a decent chance to get ahead through proper education.
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Jesse, I can't help but feel the same way. I work at the State Capitol a few days a week and it is hard to understand how people can think a certain way. My big passion is education, and if you ask me...our education system is very messed up! There are so many things that we could and should be doing to help all kids, rather than just the already privileged schools. Then we end up spending all this money in other areas of government that doesn't really benefit anyone. Wilson's article says it the way it is. He isn't trying to cover anything up, he just wants people to know what the ghetto is really like in Chicago. I love Chicago and I know it still has a lot of problems, but I hope to live there for a while someday.
Kari J.
Posted by: Kari | March 26, 2007 11:48 PM
I agree. Climbing out of poverty is exhausting and few people can soar to SES positions of power. With the exception of Oprah, who's too busy gifting new cars to housewives and bragging about her schools in Africa to discuss problems in her own ghetto back streets of Chitown. She has the power to lunch with the Dali Lama and Nelson Mendela and capital to build school districts overseas, surely her people can clean up Cabrini Green.
Posted by: Valerie | March 28, 2007 05:02 PM
OK, I'll jump on the bandwagon and say that I agree as well. It's what we all learned in Soc 1001...class status is set in stone and there is rarely a chance for upward mobility. Those in poverty are stuck there because their parents were. I know that I have brought this up again and again, but the use of credit is making upward mobility harder to defeat than ever. Credit scores affect everything! The worse your payment history gets - from not having enough money to pay bills - the more you pay in the long run. What kind of economic structure is that?! How does it make any sense?!
P.S. - Sorry that the U has turned me into a pessimist so that even my short comments have to be depressing. I blame it on the system.
Allison
Posted by: Allison | March 28, 2007 10:11 PM
Allison, being in poverty isn't all about your parents being poor. Are you saying you agree with the "caste system?" (I'm not too sure, but that's how I understand it). There are social systems set in place in policy, housing and community development, etc. that make it hard for people to move upward the economic ladder. Education also is an issue for upward mobility for individuals and families of lower-income because they don't have access to tap into information, they are being capitalized on for being informationally (is that even a word) uninformed, or someone just isn't telling them what they need to know to get out of poverty.
Posted by: Kathy | April 5, 2007 01:28 PM
Sorry if I sound a bit too strong about my statement, but I really think that's a generalization being made. I have seen people from poverty, get out of it even if their parents were poor.
Posted by: Kathy | April 5, 2007 01:33 PM
OBE #5 - Wilson...the New Jacobs?
The black belt of poverty, as William J. Wilson states, contains an extremely large amount of poverty among blacks (131). The concentration of poverty is a result of the housing officials constructing large housing complexes called ‘projects’ for the poor. The neighborhoods that were once full of life, opportunity and hope are replaced with violence, fear, and struggle.
Wilson gives readers the full effect of what the living situation is like in the South Side of Chicago by providing excerpts of interviews from inhabitants. The older residents have seen the changes. They have seen beautiful homes and stores become places for drug exchanges, gang violence and an eye sore. A 91 –year-old women he interviews talks about the safety of the neighborhood. She says, “It’s not safe anymore because the streets aren’t” (127). Even after we have discussed Jane Jacobs we find her presence in Wilson’s article. This elderly lady gives insight to the importance of the sidewalks and streets. The pavement connects people together, because it is shared space. The blacktop near the housing projects is where the children played. But, not any longer; Jacob’s says that businesses and people on the sidewalks and streets are essential for safety. The 91-year-old women also recognizes this, because once the first sign of violence emerged, the black business owners packed up and left the neighborhood, leaving the streets and sidewalks in the dark.
I enjoy the fact that Wilson relates to Jacobs. Wilson realizes that the public spaces do need to be safe in order to have a decent living situation. Because when the eyes stay away from the dark corners, the gang violence occurs leaving the children even more endangered. The need for safety is crucial for and urban society to survive, and both Jacobs and Wilson realize that!
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Kari J. Johnson
(Still a work in progress...I know!!)
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kari, i think that you make a really great connection between wilson and jacobs. even though not everyone may agree 100% with what they both have to say, i think that it is true that safety from true and actual danger is a vital element for a thriving and functioning urban environment especially for kids. if children are in danger or encountering heavy gang violence or drug deals on their way to school, why would their parents send them and take a risk? it looks like you have a great start to your o.b.e.
Posted by: amber | March 30, 2007 03:45 PM
March 27, 2007
OBE-4 The Post-City Age from Webber, to WJ Wilson
In reading the first few pages of Wilson's work, I began to think of what he termed 'exodus' from certain urban centers as their economy and community begin to deteriorate. He says on page 129, that in '59, less than one-third of the poverty population in the U.S. lived in metropolitan central cities, whereas nearly half of the poor lived in the cities in 1991. This could be a reflection of Webbers predictions of technological advancement allowing for the decentralization of urban centres, as well as the famed sociological concept of access to power or means of gaining power...in this case to technology (automobile, telephone, nearly computers). As these forms of technology allowed for decentralization and affluent citizens to move into larger homes with more space further away and start more of their own businesses, which consumer culture supported, they left so many urbanites without jobs. I also do not think that the results from this, and I think Wilson would agree, have changed much today. There a number of cities I've been to, particularly in the South, but areas in plenty of Northern cities as well, where you can literally see old neighborhoods so run down and visualize how much nicer it must have been even a short decade or two ago. Not to sound racist in any way, but anyone knows right away that the neighborhood is almost entirely black. Wilson seems to emphasize the diminishment of "social organization" that came out of black communities consisting of many different classes, with a higher portion being middle class, as being a key factor in the neighborhoods' worsening. I would agree, and relate it to Webber by saying that more successful or financially able black's of the 50's and 60's also (along with whites) left the neighborhoods. If not, were demoted or had their businesses run to the ground. As generally white employment left, jobless men were stuck behind and couldn't afford to support their families or local communities. The unemployed black man quoted by WJ Wilson on page 129 said “It ain’t like it used to be. They laid off a lot of people. There used to be a time when you got a broken windo, you call up housing and they send someone over to fix it, but it ain’t like that no more.” This is just one of many examples of the effects of the decrystallizing social organization. The fact that he said that a lot of people were laid was an understatement as well. The poverty rates began to rise dramatically in every city Wilson discusses, especially Chicago, which is known to have one of the largest American black populations, particularly for the north. This rise in poverty is shown to make these, once nice and decent neighborhoods, become breeding a breeding ground for slum life and further separate it from the rest of society. As we all should know, negativity can breed itself and create a whirlwind of impoverty and social exclusion, and ignorance from those on the outside.
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March 28, 2007
wjw yup, now posted in the right place sean mcpherson
Sean McPherson
OBE 5
William Julius Wilson’s work serves as a great juxtaposition to Dubois’ work from a century earlier. Both works address the woes of an underprivileged black neighborhood that has suffered under municipal policies and discrimination from white people in power.
Something that held Dubois’ Philadelphia neighborhood together was the unavailability of “black flight” as an option for upwardly mobile blacks. Due to the era, living far from the urban center was not an option for any working people because of the great amount of time and expense associated with coming into the city from far out each day. Other neighborhoods in the Philadelphia area were hostile towards blacks moving in. The insular nature of the area creates a bit of a “biosphere” effect. Dubois’ black Philadelphia suffered from lots of discrimination but they did have class distinctions within the neighborhood and a combination of homeowners, business owners and slightly more transient characters that helped the neighborhood self-police due to a care and concern for the neighborhood.
Wilson’s depiction of Chicago starts with memories of a more prosperous Southside during the 50s and 60s. At this point, although the neighborhood was segregated through the process of redlining and other real estate and municipal techniques the area had businesses and employment that helped the area prosper. One of Wilson’s quotes really captures some concepts of city planning: “’It’s not safe anymore because the streets aren’t.’” This summarizes that the modern South and Westside of Chicago are lacking the panoptic potential that Jane Jacobs sees in the Village and that Janet Abu-Lughod sees in Islamic cities. Without street activity and intermingling the streets become a danger-zone with only questionable characters congregating on them.
The middle-class abandonment of the Southside of Chicago has enabled the area to become ruled by gangs. In one of Wilson’s interviews, the effect of the gangs had become so pervasive that a mother chose to send her child away because the pressure of the gangs was so hard and violent that her son’s safety was in question.
Wilson aimed the potential towards a true economic upheaval that would empower the working class of all colors and eschewed the more focused attention at particular moments that affirmative action offers. The pervasive crime record in the Southside of Chicago is blamed on the lack of jobs for young people. Middle class people are apt to move to areas where there are jobs. The decline in jobs will precipitate a move by the employed to areas where they don’t have to fear for their safety. They are more apt to enjoy such an environment if they are in an area where the majority of residents are gainfully employed.
Wilson’s discourse also points out that “ghetto poverty” is contagious. In an area where 40% of the residents are poor it is hard for the area to attract business ventures that will bring in the capital to develop it financially and socially. This means that poor blacks become increasingly isolated and become increasingly poor. Dubois points out opportunities for upward mobility in turn of the century Philadelphia are limited but they are available. Because the black community of Philadelphia is insular as opposed to isolated, the community members are able to ascend to higher positions and these positions are available within the community.
Wilson’s analysis of how economic conditions and geographic realities intersect is very illuminating. Wilson’s advices are much less racially motivated than Dubois. Wilson feels that if the economic handicaps of the black community are addressed it will be possible for these neighborhoods to prosper.
Towards the end of the paper Wilson does analyze more of the social woes of the neighborhood, particularly the crack epidemic that was at its height during the writing of Wilson’s chapter. Again, Wilson addresses the contagious effects of people using and valuing handguns as a necessary precaution in the neighborhood.
Segregation, which functions as the constant between the two articles, is further provoked by social changes that effected employment and financial stability of neighborhoods. Wilson’s article illuminates most effectively how policies that effect the entire working class population have particularly exacerbated circumstances for African-American communities.
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